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3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 31-07-2014
Up for sale is my 306 v6, diablo red phase 1, bought it to copy the clutch and subframe modifications, 10 months mot no tax, body work not great but starts and runs well £950
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - ADV_93 - 31-07-2014
I'm intrigued. What do these actually go like? Quick than a GTi-6?
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - londondan86 - 31-07-2014
Going to need a lot more info there chap.
Work done? Registered as a 3.0? Pics of engine. Etc.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Pebbles167 - 31-07-2014
Quite a bit quicker, but generally a bit less composed in the corners. Decent car if the conversion was done well.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Niall - 31-07-2014
(31-07-2014, 10:14 PM)Pebbles167 Wrote: Quite a bit quicker, but generally a bit less composed in the corners. Decent car if the conversion was done well.
This. These V6 engines are lovely but are weighty and they don't sit at 30 degrees like the standard XU in the 306 which makes a fair old detrimental change to the handling!
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - RetroPug - 31-07-2014
(31-07-2014, 09:39 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: I'm intrigued. What do these actually go like? Quick than a GTi-6?
It makes gti-6 peak torque at 1500(ish)rpm...
So yes it is only 190bhp but it pulls much better at lower revs which makes it a faster road car in practice.
Would really like this...
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Piggy - 01-08-2014
Aint the v6 lighter than gti engine?
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Grant - 01-08-2014
It's an ally block, so with all ancillaries it's only marginally heavier.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 01-08-2014
(31-07-2014, 09:39 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: I'm intrigued. What do these actually go like? Quick than a GTi-6?
Yes buddy pull very well around 200bhp much faster than a standard 6.
(31-07-2014, 10:10 PM)londondan86 Wrote: Going to need a lot more info there chap.
Work done? Registered as a 3.0? Pics of engine. Etc.
I bought it as is, theres a link to his listing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141295835813?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D141295835813%26_rdc%3D1
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - darrenjlobb - 01-08-2014
The issue is more the way the weight is distributed around the engine bay than the actual weight of the thing.
But then its not alot different to DT owners with massive IC's hanging over the front end and blowers sat on the gearbox etcetc.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 01-08-2014
(01-08-2014, 07:06 AM)darrenjlobb Wrote: The issue is more the way the weight is distributed around the engine bay than the actual weight of the thing.
But then its not alot different to DT owners with massive IC's hanging over the front end and blowers sat on the gearbox etcetc.
To be honest ive got a black V6 now and it handles near enough the same as my gti6s
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - silverzx - 01-08-2014
Location?
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 01-08-2014
(01-08-2014, 07:58 AM)silverzx Wrote: Location?
A long way from somerset, im in norfolk buddy :-)
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Pete - 01-08-2014
Love it. My old coupe felt gti6 quick and that weighed the same as the moon so this'll shift
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 1616six - 01-08-2014
(01-08-2014, 08:17 AM)306gtiparts Wrote:(01-08-2014, 07:58 AM)silverzx Wrote: Location?
A long way from somerset, im in norfolk buddy :-)
I'm in Norfolk.. hmm...
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - RetroPug - 01-08-2014
(01-08-2014, 05:20 AM)Piggy Wrote: Aint the v6 lighter than gti engine?
The engine isn't much heavier but things like the gearbox and anicilliaries are all heavier, plus the centre of mass of it isn't in as good a place, you can't mount it right at the back of the bay at an angle like the gti-6 engine.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Ruan - 01-08-2014
Everyone harps on about the weight and yes, it's not great...
But the GTi6 is hardly a light engine to begin with... An XUD9 is like 40kg lighter from the outset... Have you ever heard anyone whinging how an XUD makes the car so horrible...
Yes it'll probably make it a teensy bit duller at the front end, but it's hardly the end of the world.
It's the placement that makes the dfference - I can guarantee most people here wouldn't really notice it...
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Grant - 02-08-2014
(01-08-2014, 02:09 PM)Ruan Wrote: Everyone harps on about the weight and yes, it's not great...
But the GTi6 is hardly a light engine to begin with... An XUD9 is like 40kg lighter from the outset... Have you ever heard anyone whinging how an XUD makes the car so horrible...
Yes it'll probably make it a teensy bit duller at the front end, but it's hardly the end of the world.
It's the placement that makes the dfference - I can guarantee most people here wouldn't really notice it...
Have you ever stepped out of an XS and got into a XSI/GTi? The handling characteristics are shockingly different. After swapping all my componentry from the XS, to the XSI, i nearly stained the seats in fear for a few days whilst getting used to the car. Thats just with a weight gain, not with a shift of weight position too.
Anyhow, sorry to hijack the sale thread, I'm sure the OP doesn't want this debate going on in their sale thread.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - RetroPug - 02-08-2014
Let's all agree that it pulls really well!
If I had the money and space and didn't already have a diablo ph.1 I'd be all over this.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 04:39 PM)RetroPug Wrote: Let's all agree that it pulls really well!
If I had the money and space and didn't already have a diablo ph.1 I'd be all over this.
I may just sell the whole engine conversion if anyones interested, complete with shafts / gearbox / sunframe / ecu and loom etc ??
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Silky - 02-08-2014
Where in Norfolk are you?
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 07:37 PM)Silky Wrote: Where in Norfolk are you?
In thetford buddy
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - Silky - 02-08-2014
Ok. So I'm in Chelmsford. Will take a look but possible a little far for the missus to drive me.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 07:42 PM)Silky Wrote: Ok. So I'm in Chelmsford. Will take a look but possible a little far for the missus to drive me.
Ok no worrys
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 1616six - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 07:47 PM)306gtiparts Wrote:(02-08-2014, 07:42 PM)Silky Wrote: Ok. So I'm in Chelmsford. Will take a look but possible a little far for the missus to drive me.
Ok no worrys
I knew I recognised the name, I sold you a blaze 6 with a snapped Cambelt a couple of years back!
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 08:22 PM)JJ0063 Wrote:(02-08-2014, 07:47 PM)306gtiparts Wrote:(02-08-2014, 07:42 PM)Silky Wrote: Ok. So I'm in Chelmsford. Will take a look but possible a little far for the missus to drive me.
Ok no worrys
I knew I recognised the name, I sold you a blaze 6 with a snapped Cambelt a couple of years back!
Possibly ive had a few GTi6s lol.
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 1616six - 02-08-2014
I'm sure it was you lol, blaze with black cyclones, reg was R...VPU, I delivered it to a house near tescos!
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RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 08:51 PM)JJ0063 Wrote: I'm sure it was you lol, blaze with black cyclones, reg was R...VPU, I delivered it to a house near tescos!
Ah yes that was me i wasnt home so you dropped it off to my parents place, you got another one now?
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 1616six - 02-08-2014
Nope, had a black ph3 HDI which we converted to XUD which is still knocking around the forums but I'm in a 59 plate 3 series now. Still keep my eyes open for a non running cabby to convert to XUD.. If you ever come across one lol
RE: 3.0 V6 306 - 306gtiparts - 02-08-2014
(02-08-2014, 08:57 PM)JJ0063 Wrote: Nope, had a black ph3 HDI which we converted to XUD which is still knocking around the forums but I'm in a 59 plate 3 series now. Still keep my eyes open for a non running cabby to convert to XUD.. If you ever come across one lol
I will keep a eye out i dont normally get involoved with the cabs though but do get them now and again ;-)