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hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 04-11-2013
yo !!
in need of some help please
... my hdi has been running lumpy intermitantly and engine management light will come on, fault code is primary fuel pump. the other day she wudnt start, turnin over n thats it.. theres fuel gettin to then engine n not injecting .. fault code is primary fuel pump again so changed that n she still wont start, sum1 reckons immobiliser ? no1 round where i live seems to have a clue 
any response will be very much appreiated !! thanku !! 
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - ChezHdi - 04-11-2013
has it only started doing it since the remap?
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Tom - 04-11-2013
(04-11-2013, 12:58 PM)ChezHdi Wrote: has it only started doing it since the remap?
No dont think so!
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 04-11-2013
nahh remap was done years ago lol ....
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - darrenjlobb - 04-11-2013
Want to sell it as a non runner to your friendly farmer neighbor?
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 04-11-2013
noooooo i dont darren lol .... well i will if its sumit serious n not worth me gettin it fixed... wat do u wana do with it ? lol
Re: hdi remapped turning over not starting - kentiiboii - 04-11-2013
Itll be something so silly! Dont get rid though, itll do your head in but you'll regret getting rid!
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - darrenjlobb - 04-11-2013
heh I just want a cheap 3 door hdi
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Dum-Dum - 04-11-2013
Sounds lift pump or fuel pressure regularot related to me.
First check your getting 2 lives to the lift pump under the back seat. If its only 1 then its immobilisre related.
Then check its actually lifting a decent volume of fuel
then take the fuel pressure regulator out the high pressure pump on the engine and clean it.
Also check the in tank pump strainer is clean as is the fuel filter
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Poodle - 04-11-2013
As above really, i *think* primary refers to the lift pump, but not sure so do some testing first. You can check if the lift pump is running by listening to it as you turn the ignition to pos 2, it'll whine/whirr if it's working. Some more ideas in the guide in my sig.
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Tom - 04-11-2013
Had replacement lift pump, pump primes when ignition is on, there not much fuel in the tank, but i havent been told exactly how much!
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Poodle - 04-11-2013
I'd be inclined to check over the lift pump cradle for any blockages then put some more diesel in just to rule out the obvious.
If you only get one signal to the lift pump it could be the immob signal or the control signal from the brown relay. If you've only got one signal you'll need to identify which, if either, is missing. The brown relay seems to be a fairly common issue, so worth a check imo.
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Jonny81191 - 04-11-2013
It's worth putting a gallon in the tank and priming it through, just to rule out any possibility of it being empty. I had this happen on mine once, the needle was lifting almost out of the red, but it wasn't enough to start it..
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 05-11-2013
ohhh i changed the lift pump and could hear it prime, its now at some french specialist place
hopefully theyll sort it 
thanks tho guys i know who to turn to when sumit else is up xx
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Poodle - 05-11-2013
Would appreciate it if you could update with the solution, for future reference. Thanks.
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Tom - 05-11-2013
Faulty HP pump from running it dry so much i think. I think she will update when shes know more.
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - darrenjlobb - 06-11-2013
My offer still stands
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Tom - 06-11-2013
She's having it fixed I think! Must be costing a bomb! But apparently they're really nice so that makes up for it -.-
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - darrenjlobb - 06-11-2013
Heh pft
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 06-11-2013
haha yeh hp pump broke up, injectors need replacing or cleanin .. i culda got sum1 to do it for half the price but he wulda had it for about 3 weeks, these guys are doin it in a day and i get warranty too... i need my car to get to work so pretty despo to get it back lol... i dont usually like goin to main garages n shit cuz of been mugged over but i needed to lol ... n yeh was from running it so low on fuel all the time :/ deffooooow wont be doin that anymore !! but its weird that the fault code was primary fuel pump :/ xx
(06-11-2013, 11:58 AM)Tom Wrote: She's having it fixed I think! Must be costing a bomb! But apparently they're really nice so that makes up for it -.-
lol yes it does haha
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 07-11-2013
Ecu problems too
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Poodle - 07-11-2013
Sounds like they're stringing you along tbh, the chances of all that lot going at once are slim to none. More likely they don't know what they're dealing with so are just changing bits to see what happens and charging you for their idiocy. I assume its just a garage rather than a diesel specialist?
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 07-11-2013
Its southwest renault peugeot and citroen.. google them ..
Fuel pumps bein on its way out for a while but I thort was the lift pump lol ... n then the other day she wudnt start hence wcu troubles??
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - darrenjlobb - 07-11-2013
No offence, but this is just turning into a typical "modern car diagnosis session" where they havent a clue what the issue is, and there just learning as they go along...sadly you are going to end up paying for all these parts, of which likely only one is faulty.....
But then if it gets you back on the road and it costs less to repair than selling that one as non runner / buying another then its worth it to you, especially as you love the car.
How much are they charging, without being rude heh
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Poodle - 07-11-2013
Dealership, says it all tbh.
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - puglove - 07-11-2013
Ouch this bill is going to hurt!
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 07-11-2013
They doin ecu for free
They said that when I last got it serviced the person difnt even change fuel filter
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Tom - 07-11-2013
(07-11-2013, 12:47 PM)darrenjlobb Wrote: No offence, but this is just turning into a typical "modern car diagnosis session" where they havent a clue what the issue is, and there just learning as they go along...sadly you are going to end up paying for all these parts, of which likely only one is faulty.....
But then if it gets you back on the road and it costs less to repair than selling that one as non runner / buying another then its worth it to you, especially as you love the car.
How much are they charging, without being rude heh
(07-11-2013, 01:34 PM)MissWoop Wrote: They doin ecu for free
They said that when I last got it serviced the person difnt even change fuel filter
Cant say im suprised, should brought it to me or Darren we could of serviced it :p
Edit: Hmm double quote, how the f*ck did i do that.
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - MissWoop - 07-11-2013
u guys can do the next 1 yeh
RE: hdi remapped turning over not starting - Toms306 - 07-11-2013
What ECU problem are they fixing for free?
Also, you could've done the fuel filter yourself, it's really not hard, and much cheaper than the garage doing it!