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suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
Ok guys as tiyle says i sat here an searched through and not found much in the way of saying yep for certan its your suspension..
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So other than the usual knocking excessive travel/play.
What are the signs of suspension failing/going/gone...
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Grant - 04-09-2013
Define suspension mate. There are a lot of components that make up a suspension system. Do you mean the struts/shocks?
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
(04-09-2013, 02:51 PM)Grant Wrote: Define suspension mate. There are a lot of components that make up a suspension system. Do you mean the struts/shocks?
Lol yeh would help lol.....i mean the hole spring shock all that part lol and front lol
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Grant - 04-09-2013
There could be a misting of oil. Check the top mount bearing for grainy feelings/rust. When you bounce the front of the car excessive hissing noises can indicate worn seals. What symptoms are you getting?
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
(04-09-2013, 02:59 PM)Grant Wrote: There could be a misting of oil. Check the top mount bearing for grainy feelings/rust. When you bounce the front of the car excessive hissing noises can indicate worn seals. What symptoms are you getting?
All i get is a knocking now and again feels like the wheels are rocking back and forth under take off and braking no judder just feels like whhels slip forward or backwards i thought it might be a worn or slightly worn steering colum...
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Piggy - 04-09-2013
knocking back and forth? like front to back...that would be top mounts or bottom ball joint.
.have you jacked it up and had a good feel/look?
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
(04-09-2013, 03:10 PM)Piggy Wrote: knocking back and forth? like front to back...that would be top mounts or bottom ball joint.
.have you jacked it up and had a good feel/look?
Ahhh top mounts everything lower is brand new..ball joints wishbones track rod ends driveshafts...you may be on to summin there piggy how easy are they to do...
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Grant - 04-09-2013
Give the wishbones a good once over, could also be p-bushes
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
(04-09-2013, 03:14 PM)Grant Wrote: Give the wishbones a good once over, could also be p-bushes
There brand new mate less than a month old..
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Grant - 04-09-2013
The whole wish bone or just the bushes?
Check the subframe is attached well and the bolts are tight. Check the Track rod ends for play (ie jack the car up and give the wheel some welly at 9 and 3). Check the topmounts as piggy said, but I doubt they would cause back and forth montion unless they are royally f*cked.
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
(04-09-2013, 03:23 PM)Grant Wrote: The whole wish bone or just the bushes?
Check the subframe is attached well and the bolts are tight. Check the Track rod ends for play (ie jack the car up and give the wheel some welly at 9 and 3). Check the topmounts as piggy said, but I doubt they would cause back and forth montion unless they are royally f*cked.
Ill av a look at all bolts when i get under to paint it lop i just had a thought.....
Could worn top engine mounts mimic the problem i mean the rocking back and forward cus it would move the engine forward and backwards making me think wheels are moving vut may infact be the engine rocking and nothing else...just a thought..
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Just Sean - 04-09-2013
Rock the engine and find out!
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Grant - 04-09-2013
That and the lower engine mount would be more likely to cause those symptoms
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 04-09-2013
(04-09-2013, 04:06 PM)Grant Wrote: That and the lower engine mount would be more likely to cause those symptomsahhh i see well the lower one is new but the top two are not so mabey we have found my little annoyance lol its not a major rocking motin more like a 2/3mm or thats what it feel like lol mabey less but with it being on a peugeot you could trebble that lol
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Poodle - 05-09-2013
What wishbones did you put on? Ive had cheap sets go in 500 miles before.
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - puglove - 05-09-2013
if a little bit of poo comes out every time you go around a corner its prob nackered and needs replacing
sounds like a P bush. did you buy cheap ones? could be even know its new. we shreded a cheap P bush to point it was knocking in a week on the mrs xsi.
get under there and see if the rubber is ripped on the P bush
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Poodle - 05-09-2013
Echo, echo, echo....
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Grant - 05-09-2013
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Ed Doe - 05-09-2013
have you tightened the balljoint pinch bolts up correctly? If not tight enough they can cause knocking and will oval the hubs meaning you'll need to replace them. Definitely worth a check!!
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 05-09-2013
(05-09-2013, 12:17 PM)Poodle Wrote: What wishbones did you put on? Ive had cheap sets go in 500 miles before.
I dunno what they were but cost 45 each
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Toms306 - 05-09-2013
Not Q-drive were they lol??
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 05-09-2013
To be honest i think i may just be looking for faults lol.....its actually quite hard to describe whats happening (well if its actually happening)...ahhh trying to think how to explane it lol..
(05-09-2013, 09:25 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Not Q-drive were they lol??
No they wernt from ecp lol
I supose what ever may have gone its not all bad as they all come with 12 month warrenty
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Poodle - 07-09-2013
That sounds like cheap motor factor parts tbh, have you actually had a look yet?
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - pugjohn306 - 10-09-2013
(07-09-2013, 05:41 PM)Poodle Wrote: That sounds like cheap motor factor parts tbh, have you actually had a look yet?
yeh iv looked all parts are still as they were when i put em on in one piece its not doing it at the moment since i sorted out my rattly knocky exhaust might of been something even more simple than i made out but it certainly felt like it was rocking i dunno ill leave it for a few weeks and see if it comes back might just be me looking for things to be wrong lol
RE: suspension how to tell if its going/gone. - Poodle - 12-09-2013
Fair enough, wait and see job then I guess. If the exhaust was moving a lot, that points to the engine mounts too mate.