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how low - spawno88 - 17-04-2013
How low should I go with standard shocks
RE: how low - Niall - 17-04-2013
no more than 40mm really
RE: how low - puglove - 17-04-2013
grab some gti shocks cut the bump stops in half the 60mm
i have a set of 50mms on Dt shocks and they were fine when they were fitted to the car, for sale if you want them, shocks & top mounts aswell
RE: how low - samass - 17-04-2013
All the way, take the springs out and use the bump stops as the springs. Job done.
RE: how low - E_KEL95 - 17-04-2013
No springs in front, 4nicks at the back lad only way!!!
RE: how low - puglove - 18-04-2013
(17-04-2013, 09:41 PM)E_KEL95 Wrote: No springs in front, 4nicks at the back lad only way if you total brain dead !!!
EFA
Re: how low - TomLum - 18-04-2013
I'm down 60mm on standard shocks for 2 and half years. Never had a problem.
RE: how low - E_KEL95 - 18-04-2013
(18-04-2013, 07:59 AM)TomLum Wrote: I'm down 60mm on standard shocks for 2 and half years. Never had a problem.
Ohhh f*ck she must be low sir??? Im running coilover wit the helpr out an th other cut in half sits real low now!!! an 4 oul dirty nickers at the beck shes virgin tight am telin ye!!
RE: how low - spawno88 - 18-04-2013
Awesome. just got some 60 mill drop springies
RE: how low - puglove - 19-04-2013
(18-04-2013, 09:23 AM)E_KEL95 Wrote:(18-04-2013, 07:59 AM)TomLum Wrote: I'm down 60mm on standard shocks for 2 and half years. Never had a problem.
Ohhh f*ck she must be low sir??? Im running coilover wit the helpr out an th other cut in half sits real low now!!! an 4 oul dirty nickers at the beck shes virgin tight am telin ye!!
thats clevever enit. till your car goes light . whats left of the spring dislocates jams in the wheel , locks your wheel sends the car spinning down the road and kills the family coming the other way .
Idiots like you doing dangerous things like that to your car that makes roads unsafe and push insurence premiuns through the roof
RE: how low - Bertman - 19-04-2013
To be honest on standard shock's I wouldn't want to go anything past 30mm. From a handling perspective 60mm on standard shocks will probably make the car handle crap and with the roads the way they are in this country you'll f*ck your car up in no time.
Save up for some semi-decent stuff like bilsteins and lower it properly. Best way.
RE: how low - spawno88 - 19-04-2013
(19-04-2013, 09:12 AM)puglove Wrote:(18-04-2013, 09:23 AM)E_KEL95 Wrote:(18-04-2013, 07:59 AM)TomLum Wrote: I'm down 60mm on standard shocks for 2 and half years. Never had a problem.
Ohhh f*ck she must be low sir??? Im running coilover wit the helpr out an th other cut in half sits real low now!!! an 4 oul dirty nickers at the beck shes virgin tight am telin ye!!
thats clevever enit. till your car goes light . whats left of the spring dislocates jams in the wheel , locks your wheel sends the car spinning down the road and kills the family coming the other way .
Idiots like you doing dangerous things like that to your car that makes roads unsafe and push insurence premiuns through the roof
many thanks for your words of wisdom, but seems 60mill is possible, mine are going tomorrow
RE: how low - puglove - 19-04-2013
(19-04-2013, 05:14 PM)Bertman Wrote: To be honest on standard shock's I wouldn't want to go anything past 30mm. From a handling perspective 60mm on standard shocks will probably make the car handle crap and with the roads the way they are in this country you'll f*ck your car up in no time.
Save up for some semi-decent stuff like bilsteins and lower it properly. Best way.
TBH iv been there done that. and 60mm on OE shocks is epic from a handimg point of view. just harsh on the shocks and your spine on rough roads
. it will kill shocks and top mounts within 5-10k miles but it womt really damage anything eles.
RE: how low - Bertman - 19-04-2013
(19-04-2013, 06:53 PM)puglove Wrote:(19-04-2013, 05:14 PM)Bertman Wrote: To be honest on standard shock's I wouldn't want to go anything past 30mm. From a handling perspective 60mm on standard shocks will probably make the car handle crap and with the roads the way they are in this country you'll f*ck your car up in no time.
Save up for some semi-decent stuff like bilsteins and lower it properly. Best way.
TBH iv been there done that. and 60mm on OE shocks is epic from a handimg point of view. just harsh on the shocks and your spine on rough roads
. it will kill shocks and top mounts within 5-10k miles but it womt really damage anything eles.
The lack of body roll will probably be noticeable, but I wouldn't call handling epic. Far from it... you'll end up with mix matched shock and spring rates, not just on the front, but front to rear as well as most people just lower the back end and make no adjustments to spring rates, ARB's blah blah blah.. you get the idea.
If it's just for looks then it doesn't matter go for it. But for a properly dedicated fast car it's a waste of time.
I'd probably go with you on your second point... except for scrubbing (and all of the various side effects of that), harsh ride effects on various (already dubious quality) interior plastics, driveshafts (if running far too low), bump steer effects (also from running too low)... I won't go on, I'm boring myself! ha
(19-04-2013, 05:57 PM)spawno88 Wrote: many thanks for your words of wisdom, but seems 60mill is possible, mine are going tomorrow
60mm is easily possible.. so is 120mm doesn't mean it'll be any good though.
just sayin'
RE: how low - spawno88 - 19-04-2013
I do suspect it won't be great. But just for looks until I can do the job properly. And the springs cost next nothing
RE: how low - cwspellowe - 19-04-2013
(18-04-2013, 09:23 AM)E_KEL95 Wrote:(18-04-2013, 07:59 AM)TomLum Wrote: I'm down 60mm on standard shocks for 2 and half years. Never had a problem.
Ohhh f*ck she must be low sir??? Im running coilover wit the helpr out an th other cut in half sits real low now!!! an 4 oul dirty nickers at the beck shes virgin tight am telin ye!!
Lol, low is nothing if you're tucking 1990's Citroen wheels. Drag your car's arse as much as you want, shows how much you fail at everything.
RE: how low - spawno88 - 22-04-2013
well i have fitted the springs, and its sitting nice, think it will need a few weeks to settle but i like the ride, going to stiffen up back end and probably get some arb's of a 6, or if there is any suggestions for other arb@s that would be better? will upload some pics as soon as i figure out how to lol
RE: how low - puglove - 22-04-2013
(22-04-2013, 05:31 PM)spawno88 Wrote: well i have fitted the springs, and its sitting nice, think it will need a few weeks to settle but i like the ride, going to stiffen up back end and probably get some arb's of a 6, or if there is any suggestions for other arb@s that would be better? will upload some pics as soon as i figure out how to lol
Yeah custom thicker ones but they cost £££££££
RE: how low - spawno88 - 22-04-2013
now you have got me thinking, im pretty good with a piece of mettle and mandrell
RE: how low - puglove - 22-04-2013
Its not as simple as just size though buddy lol , you could have the bars twice as thick but 3x as soft if not made correctly/ used the correct matirials, blah blah blah, look at places like pug1off and that,
I have Hybrid ARBs and TBs in my spare room
RE: how low - Atterz - 22-04-2013
Im not sure if im reading correctly, but you was going to attempt to make your own Torsion bars?
RE: how low - Eeyore - 22-04-2013
On the 1.8 i ran 60mm springs on slightly upgraded shocks. On the 1.4 i ran 40mm springs on standard shocks. Upgrade the shocks if you can but standard ones were never a problem for me.