White phase 1, now with added truck turbo and massive head gasket failure

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RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - the milkman - 11-11-2012

If your wondering about the brembos you can get them behind cyclones using 20mm spacers I believe, not 100% on weather there just a case of bolt on but you will need new lines for them I'd go with braided

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 11-11-2012

(11-11-2012, 11:04 PM)the milkman Wrote: If your wondering about the brembos you can get them behind cyclones using 20mm spacers I believe, not 100% on weather there just a case of bolt on but you will need new lines for them I'd go with braided

nice to know that you can get them behind 15's, il be after some 16" team dynamics pro race 1.2 for when i actually do the conversion, im on 15" tds at the moment and they look good, just think going up an inch would fill the arches alot better and i could get some monster discs under there to match 4 pot calipers Smile

White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ash240970 - 12-11-2012

(11-11-2012, 09:07 PM)ozonehostile Wrote:
(11-11-2012, 09:01 PM)ash240970 Wrote: And if you ever get fed up of the 1.9 engine I have a 2.1 sat in my parts store(Malvern) I don't think I'll ever get round to using - be rude not to once you've got the bigger brakes on lol

Ooh a 2.1, now theres an Idea! You got any other nice parts you wouldnt miss?

Didn't say I won't miss it - just said I don't think I'll ever getting round to using it - the right amount of beer tokens may make me miss it a lot less though :whistling:

Only other things in there at the moment is a set of Ariannes but they'll be getting refurbed and painted eventually, 3 alpine V12 amps 3 other cheapo amps, a pair of focal 5' component speakers a powerflex lower engine mount and that's about it - well you did ask, lol

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - SonnyRoby - 12-11-2012

Any power aproximation? Running with stock internals?

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 05:44 AM)SonnyRoby Wrote: Any power aproximation? Running with stock internals?

Not really sure what to expect power wise, but judging from the way it pulls through the gears id guess about 180ish bh, maybe more.
wheelspin in 1st, 2nd and 3rd sort of indicates that its got some serious grunt Big Grin

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - CJ_Derv - 12-11-2012

Very interesting this, especially running stock pump, guessing its been gov modded, but nothing else other than a tune, thats all ive had done so far and managed good figuires on a wayy smaller turbo than yours. would love to see power this beast makes

never been a fan of turbos over the gearbox unless its a big fecker like this Smile

got me interested in this twin entry setup too.

would be interesting to see what this would be like with bigger pump.

Im contemplating a new build which has been done but never completed and run, 2.1 crank in a 1.9 block for more torque

CJ

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - darrenjlobb - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 09:27 AM)CJ_Derv Wrote: Very interesting this, especially running stock pump, guessing its been gov modded, but nothing else other than a tune, thats all ive had done so far and managed good figuires on a wayy smaller turbo than yours. would love to see power this beast makes

never been a fan of turbos over the gearbox unless its a big fecker like this got me interested in this twin entry setup too.

would be interesting to see what this would be like with bigger pump.

Im contemplating a new build which has been done but never completed and run, 2.1 crank in a 1.9 block for more torque

CJ

In other words finishing off JP's build that he gave up on lol?

For measureing the belt, the way ive always done it (and believe me ive done it alot of times with all my different supercharger arrangements!) is ive got an old belt (longish one) thats cut in half, then you just wrap it aroundthe pulleys how you want, overlap them, and draw across the belt where they meet, then remove it again, lay it on the ground flat, and measure it on the floor, then just buy a gates belt 6pkxxx where xxx is the length in mm that you just measured....works everytime! You need to be more accurate than you think, the tensioner will only take up 5-10mm tops, anything more than that and itl be no good!

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - CJ_Derv - 12-11-2012

In other words finishing off JP's build that he gave up on lol?

but would be very interesting to see what power it would make as my local derv specialist told me to do this years ago as its all about the torque

And got to say thats a BELTIN idea for measuring a belt Tongue

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - Dum-Dum - 12-11-2012

Hi mate, I am selling a set of 406 brembos with the Tarox G88 discs that are supposed to stop them squealing. Only done a few thousand miles on the pads and discs cos i wrote the car off.

Also you say its a twin entry turbo, I take it you mean a twin scroll?
Have you considered a quick spool valve as then youd have boost much lower in the rev range but loose nothing top end (ive spent a fair bit of time looking at twin scroll set ups)

Basically the valve sits between turbo and manifold and at low boost levels only lets the exhaust in one scroll of the turbo then its opperated by a boost actuator and opens a flap to let exhaust gas into both scrolls at high boost levels. Theyer not commonly used in this country but are over the pond, theyer about £150 IIRC but i reckon you could make one for £30

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 11:47 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Hi mate, I am selling a set of 406 brembos with the Tarox G88 discs that are supposed to stop them squealing. Only done a few thousand miles on the pads and discs cos i wrote the car off.

Also you say its a twin entry turbo, I take it you mean a twin scroll?
Have you considered a quick spool valve as then youd have boost much lower in the rev range but loose nothing top end (ive spent a fair bit of time looking at twin scroll set ups)

Basically the valve sits between turbo and manifold and at low boost levels only lets the exhaust in one scroll of the turbo then its opperated by a boost actuator and opens a flap to let exhaust gas into both scrolls at high boost levels. Theyer not commonly used in this country but are over the pond, theyer about £150 IIRC but i reckon you could make one for £30

how much do you want for those calipers and discs mate? Il have a look into those valves, sounds like an interesting development

(12-11-2012, 09:27 AM)CJ_Derv Wrote: Very interesting this, especially running stock pump, guessing its been gov modded, but nothing else other than a tune, thats all ive had done so far and managed good figuires on a wayy smaller turbo than yours. would love to see power this beast makes

never been a fan of turbos over the gearbox unless its a big fecker like this got me interested in this twin entry setup too.

would be interesting to see what this would be like with bigger pump.

Im contemplating a new build which has been done but never completed and run, 2.1 crank in a 1.9 block for more torque

CJ

Is like to see if that would work, would be awesome if it does

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - PUGMON - 12-11-2012

Oh my! now this is a build i will be keeping an eye on!

Really like the car tbh, much like my mates but with a awesome engine.... wish he put the XUD in his new one into the old more door!

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - CJ_Derv - 12-11-2012

I know imagine the torque that it could well produce along with this that Dum Dum has just got me very interested in Smile

Twin scroll setup .................google time haha

Looks a evil motor too with front mount just slapped on Smile

reminds me of my blaze no descreteness just all in your face just like your turbo Smile

White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - Jake - 12-11-2012

Really really love this! Please go get it on the rollers !

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 01:42 PM)PUGMON Wrote: Oh my! now this is a build i will be keeping an eye on!

Really like the car tbh, much like my mates but with a awesome engine.... wish he put the XUD in his new one into the old more door!

Glad you appreciate it, more doors, more whores haha

(12-11-2012, 01:53 PM)CJ_Derv Wrote: I know imagine the torque that it could well produce along with this that Dum Dum has just got me very interested in Twin scroll setup .................google time haha

Looks a evil motor too with front mount just slapped on reminds me of my blaze no descreteness just all in your face just like your turbo

Plus Its very hard to be discreet with a 4inch straight thru 'zorst and turbo chatter, certainly turns heads driving through town haha

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - Poodle - 12-11-2012

That boost valve would defy the point of building a properly matched manifold, could improve your current arrangement though.

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - CJ_Derv - 12-11-2012

We dont need Discreet with a blower like that Smile

mines discreet in the way of intercooler tucked behind bumper and standard looking roll tip stainless zorst but only 2.75" tip BUT.... sounds like a jet lol

would like to see this on dyno and hear it also

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - Pugmarshall - 12-11-2012

Let me know when you get in on a dyno, could bring mine along too Smile

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - samass - 12-11-2012

nice, deffo interested to see what sort of power this makes!

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 04:48 PM)Pugmarshall Wrote: Let me know when you get in on a dyno, could bring mine along too

I was thinking of booking a dyno run at Saxon motorsport in hereford or dng tuning in Worcester as I might be able to get a discount with my mini club membership haha. Anyone else In the 3 counties be interested in a dyno run?

White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ash240970 - 12-11-2012

Pugmarshall and I know a place that does dyno runs that could be incorporated into the midlands meet (separate thread) but I already went on the rollers earlier in the year. Still I'd turn up wherever just for the meet up.

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 05:09 PM)ash240970 Wrote: Pugmarshall and I know a place that does dyno runs that could be incorporated into the midlands meet (separate thread) but I already went on the rollers earlier in the year. Still I'd turn up wherever just for the meet up.

Sounds like a plan, I just need to get It Insured again and get my new boost pipes fitted and Itl be ready for action Smile

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - bayley - 12-11-2012

can you post a video of it launching of the stand still ? bet it goes like f*ck,lol.

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 05:36 PM)bayley Wrote: can you post a video of it launching of the stand still ? bet it goes like f*ck,lol.

il charge the camera for next time i go down the lockup for ya

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - zx_volcane - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 04:48 PM)Pugmarshall Wrote: Let me know when you get in on a dyno, could bring mine along too

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - bayley - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 05:40 PM)ozonehostile Wrote:
(12-11-2012, 05:36 PM)bayley Wrote: can you post a video of it launching of the stand still ? bet it goes like f*ck,lol.

il charge the camera for next time i go down the lockup for ya

ideal mate i will keep an eye on this thread,look's a beast Smile

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

i decided to do a tiny little video of the 306 running, forgive the shit quality, i filmed it on my phone which just couldnt handle how loud it is, but anyway its better than nothing until i get around to making a proper vidio of it.

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - bayley - 12-11-2012

sounds like its got a nice deep roar...as you said vid quality a bit shite,lol.

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 09:44 PM)bayley Wrote: sounds like its got a nice deep roar...as you said vid quality a bit shite,lol.

its certainly a roar, easily drowns out a scooby impreza (i know from experiance haha)
but yes apologies for low quality, il dig out the hd video cam this week

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - procta - 12-11-2012

whats the boost like on this?

RE: White phase 1, now with added truck turbo - ozonehostile - 12-11-2012

(12-11-2012, 10:04 PM)procta Wrote: whats the boost like on this?

only running at 1.8 bar currently, just until the engines been run in a little bit with this setup