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RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 28-02-2013
I wouldn't mind an aftermarket gauge, just don't really understand how to go about it. I've sourced an STDT cluster so going to just plumb that in.
Was driving home yesterday and lights started dimming and flashing with the indicators. Also radio started turning off and on.
Went to start it this morning and it's dead, I'm guessing it's either starter or alternator. :/
Video of it:
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Most unreliable car I've owned to date!
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - ozonehostile - 28-02-2013
You sure Its not just an earth problem if the lights are dimmed with the indicators?
An earth problem cab also less to non starting as the battery won't be charging.
Tried jumping it?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 28-02-2013
(28-02-2013, 09:40 AM)ozonehostile Wrote: You sure Its not just an earth problem if the lights are dimmed with the indicators?
An earth problem cab also less to non starting as the battery won't be charging.
Tried jumping it?
I checked the earth's, they look fine.
I haven't got anyone to jump off until the Mrs gets home from work and by the time she does I won't be needing the car.
I think I'll make alternative plans for getting to Uni tomorrow then I'll jump it Sat & take it back to Somerset.
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - ozonehostile - 28-02-2013
I can't see the vid on my phone, but what are the symptoms? Is It turning over or dead?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 28-02-2013
Bit of both.
I'm hoping the XUD9 starter and alternator setup will fit in as it currently has XUD7 alternator and starter. It's not a case of will it fit, it's a case of will it fit in the space I have.
I think Max hasn't had any issues so hopefully it'll be ok.
Also the drivers side indicator managed to fall through so after an hour of fishing with hooks I gave up trying to get the little white plastic bit out. I was going to remove the wing but the tack welds are pretty damn strong/seized so gave up on that.
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Instead I made a DIY replacement = CHRONIC!
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Obviously I will be producing these if there is enough interest at around £9.99 delivered with no warranty.
Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - Sambarker - 28-02-2013
On mine I've got an xud9 starter, but running a citroen c15 alternator and belt (already had them) and works great
Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 28-02-2013
Interesting. I'm hoping the XUD9 one will go on ok. Does the C15 one have a bit more torque?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 04-03-2013
Gearbox wouldn't go in.
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2)
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Clutch inside appears to be fine so trying a new cable.
Are there differences between the phase 1 & 2 gearboxes?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - ginge191 - 04-03-2013
What gearbox are you using? the 1.9 XUD box?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 04-03-2013
Yup off a p/97 phase 1 XUD.
Edit: Been told it should fit, obviously you swap the selector arms over (which part of can drop into the box leading it it needing dismantling) - this wasn't a problem. The gear linkages however don't look like they'd fit onto the BE3 box. Some people are saying they do fit, my mechanic is saying they don't. My source: people on forums, his source: he raced 205's for a few years.
Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - Parksy87 - 04-03-2013
Only ph1 some were cable, some electric, all ph2 are electric speedo
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - strictly_perv - 04-03-2013
Well mine fits....
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - sparkyboi007 - 04-03-2013
HELLO MATE IS THIS FOR SALE !!!!!
(11-12-2012, 03:07 PM)silverzx Wrote: Went and picked my new car up on Saturday.
It's a white 3 door 205 in XLD spec (poverty spec - manual windows, cloth seats etc) with a XUD 1.9DT engine fitted by WelshPug.
Been resprayed recently so body is very good condition, inside is also very clean, a very "retro" feel to the components and dash compared to the 306.
Here's some pictures:
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Big list of things to do but should make a change from the 306 which I've had for almost two and a half years now.
Spec list to date (updated 11/12/2012):
Done:
Lower front (40mm 306 springs)
Refurb speedlines
HID's
Recharge / test / replace battery
Boost Gauge
Re wire radio loom
To Do (parts ready):
Fit Bosch setup
Replace standard backbox for aftermarket
Fit gti subframe (need wish bones)
Fit BE3 gearbox and pull clutch mechanism
Fit driver side mirror (current one doesn't adjust)
Fit central locking
Wire up fog lights
Change to 1.9 starter motor
Repaint slam panel
To Do (parts needed):
Fit rev counter (STDT cluster or aftermarket gauge)
Fit GTi6 front brakes
Fit 1.6/1.9GTI rear beam / lower current beam
Replace passenger front top mount suspension
Fit GTI bumpers, strips and arches
Fit aero wipers
Uprate engine mounts
Uprate washer nozzles
Fit power steering
Relocate air filter / de filter
Parts to swap from 306 (possibly):
266 front brakes
T25 Turbo, 360 thrust bearing, welded wastegate
FMIC 2.25" piping, xantia manifold
9mm Bosch: Gov'd, Dan LDA pin
So there we have it, my new coaling machine.
Comments welcome.
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hi is this for sale ??????//
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 04-03-2013
On the positive side I have clutch powers!!!!!
All be it Be1 powers...
@sparky - what you offering?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 08-03-2013
Ordered a couple of goodies for this, nothing major though.
No Smoke No Poke sticker and a volt meter gauge.
Will get some pictures when they're both fitted.
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 05-04-2013
Fitted sticker today and attempted a stage 1 tune on the K14 and Lucas. All was going fine unti BOTH of my 4mm allen keys got rounded off.
Therefore was left at 14.5 PSI with no smoke on boost but capable of "coaling" if planting it off boost in high gears.
Need to get the grinder on the keys and take 'em back 0.5mm, then I can carry on up'ing the fuel until 17~22 PSI.
Definately need to get stuck into it after Final Year Project is done and dusted on Thursday.
This thing should be pretty wild once it's got all the "goodies" on!
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - ozonehostile - 05-04-2013
its about bloody time haha
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 08-04-2013
(05-04-2013, 08:17 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: its about bloody time haha
Keep having to use the smoke screen as the entertainment factor as it doesn't really have any pull. Fun to slide around corners in though! The rear desperately needs beating down!
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 14-05-2013
So got a TD04L bolted on still on standard Lucas fueling, credit to Ruan for giving me some advice when needed.
Goes pretty well as few people saw on Sundays meet.
I have however now developed a rattle in the exhaust system somewhere, maybe an excuse to sack off the 1.75/2" exhaust for something a bit bigger if I can find someone to weld one up!
I've got a nice picture of a K14, T25 and TD04L all lined up but I keep forgetting to bring my camera home so will put them up tomorrow or something..
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RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - Midnightclub - 14-05-2013
Christ that's a tiny exhaust lol! Td04 would spool much faster with a bigger zorst.. standard 1.9dt exhaust is 2.25"
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 14-05-2013
(14-05-2013, 06:35 PM)Midnightclub Wrote: Christ that's a tiny exhaust lol! Td04 would spool much faster with a bigger zorst.. standard 1.9dt exhaust is 2.25"
Meh, don't think there's a hurry on a standard Lucas.
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - ozonehostile - 14-05-2013
It goes like f*ck considering everything is standard apart from the turbo
shotgun once youve sorted a frankenpump out
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - Midnightclub - 14-05-2013
Well, even on a Lucas if it spools up a few hundred rpm earlier then it'll be making a fair bit more power before the fuel cut.. get a Bosch on it man!
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 14-05-2013
(14-05-2013, 06:48 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: It goes like f*ck considering everything is standard apart from the turbo
shotgun once youve sorted a frankenpump out
(14-05-2013, 08:40 PM)Midnightclub Wrote: Well, even on a Lucas if it spools up a few hundred rpm earlier then it'll be making a fair bit more power before the fuel cut.. get a Bosch on it man!
"Patience is a virtue" guys, don't forget it. "Good things come to those who wait".
As always had the camera with intention of making a guide but once your covered in oil/XUD crap (which is pretty quick) you soon can't be bothered.
Pictures of turbo swap:
1 - The tidy start..
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2
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3
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5
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7 - Turbo out.
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8 - Job done..
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RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - Stephen - 14-05-2013
Nice guide
Looks great, love a good 205
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 17-05-2013
(14-05-2013, 11:34 PM)Stephen Wrote: Nice guide
Looks great, love a good 205
Thanks dude! Always wanted one so was quite lucky to get this when it came up..!
All the hard work done for me (1.9 swap)!
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - dturbine - 17-05-2013
(17-05-2013, 10:47 AM)silverzx Wrote:(14-05-2013, 11:34 PM)Stephen Wrote: Nice guide
Looks great, love a good 205
Thanks dude! Always wanted one so was quite lucky to get this when it came up..!
All the hard work done for me (1.9 swap)!
Isnt even hard :p how hards swapping the turbo on car? Remove the intake?
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 18-05-2013
I was referring to the engine change nt the turbo. :o
Turbos easy enough, just takes blood sweat and swearing especially if "things" come up.
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - dturbine - 18-05-2013
(18-05-2013, 03:08 PM)silverzx Wrote: I was referring to the engine change nt the turbo. :o
Turbos easy enough, just takes blood sweat and swearing especially if "things" come up.
Ah sweet big turbo next probly on mine. You need to purchase my spare rallye archs for this
RE: Silverzx's White 205 1.9 DT XUD - silverzx - 19-05-2013
Mates just borrowed an arch roller so might have a go..