(24-02-2014, 03:51 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: My head is saying: 'Go look at it, be cautious, check everything and inspect the paperwork / HPi check it'

My heart is saying: 'Get there, fire it up, hand the dweeb some cash and make it go BWARP all the way home'

unfortunately i have a bad habbit of following my heart when it comes too cars

(24-02-2014, 10:48 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: I was astonished how tidy it was, in far better nick than my 2002 hdi haha

Engine sounds sweet, all arches and underside are rust free, just needs some new pads and discs then reckon it'll go through an mot as it is :-)

(24-02-2014, 11:02 PM)RetroPug Wrote: Sounds like a really great buy!

(24-02-2014, 11:07 PM)Tom Wrote: Sounds awesome i want

(24-02-2014, 11:40 PM)7057sam Wrote: Great buy

good team effect look forward to seeing the pictures

(25-02-2014, 12:51 AM)Just Sean Wrote: I really like this! Must sell the Mondeo!

(24-02-2014, 03:09 PM)powerandtorque Wrote:



Reminds me of my old Cassack S16 from a few years back which Alan_M on here ended up buying a year or two later off the guy I sold it to.

(25-02-2014, 12:39 AM)7057sam Wrote: I had zakk odds on to buy this

Any plans for it? Is the s16 155bhp?

(25-02-2014, 08:07 AM)Frosty Wrote:

(25-02-2014, 12:39 AM)7057sam Wrote: I had zakk odds on to buy this

Any plans for it? Is the s16 155bhp?

Yep S16 is 155bhp standard

(25-02-2014, 09:17 AM)Piggy Wrote: Sweet news.

What makes the 12bhp difference then?

Is the S16 still 6speed?

(25-02-2014, 09:45 AM)Piggy Wrote: Just wondered coz frosty is running a 6spd box in his and I did think they were 5speed.

So then, high and mighty Matt, what does make the 12bhp difference?

(25-02-2014, 10:00 AM)Piggy Wrote: Ah righto.
Not a parts bin special then.

So I guess a GTi manifold gets slapped on pretty quick?

Then a fat turbo?

(25-02-2014, 10:17 AM)powerandtorque Wrote: It's probably easier to list what's the same between the S16 and GTi-6 engine than what's different!

The S16 (XU10J4) engine is basically an iron block 2.0 litre version of the 1.9 litre alloy block Mi16 (XU9J4) engine, and as such they share the same head design (to all intents and purposes), same camshafts etc. The fact that the larger capacity engine is slightly down on power is owing primarily to emissions.

GTi-6 (XU10J4RS) engine uses the same basic block and crank as the S16, and has the same capacity as a result, but otherwise is quite different - head design is quite notably different, cams are different, manifolds etc. It is effectively a tuned version of the standard later 2.0 16v (XU10J4R) found in XSi 16v and various PSA saloons.

You can use a GTi-6 inlet on an S16 and it is quite common as the S16's ACAV setup isn't the most reliable thing in the world, but most of the other bits aren't interchangeable between the two - exhaust ports are quite different so the manifold won't fit, cams won't fit (S16 ones are "hotter" anyway though), etc.

What makes the difference between the two? Difficult to pinpoint exactly as they're so different, but what I can say is that with a better exhaust manifold and ITB's the S16 will crack 190-200hp making it clear how much the standard manifolds and management hold it back.

I've always said that the S16 engine itself is very good and very under-rated, but it's held back by the bits attached to it and has always been unfairly overlooked in favour of its lighter older relative or the newer GTi-6.

(25-02-2014, 10:41 AM)Frosty Wrote: [quote='powerandtorque' pid='396819' dateline='1393323455']
It's probably easier to list what's the same between the S16 and GTi-6 engine than what's different!

The S16 (XU10J4) engine is basically an iron block 2.0 litre version of the 1.9 litre alloy block Mi16 (XU9J4) engine, and as such they share the same head design (to all intents and purposes), same camshafts etc. The fact that the larger capacity engine is slightly down on power is owing primarily to emissions.

GTi-6 (XU10J4RS) engine uses the same basic block and crank as the S16, and has the same capacity as a result, but otherwise is quite different - head design is quite notably different, cams are different, manifolds etc. It is effectively a tuned version of the standard later 2.0 16v (XU10J4R) found in XSi 16v and various PSA saloons.

You can use a GTi-6 inlet on an S16 and it is quite common as the S16's ACAV setup isn't the most reliable thing in the world, but most of the other bits aren't interchangeable between the two - exhaust ports are quite different so the manifold won't fit, cams won't fit (S16 ones are "hotter" anyway though), etc.

What makes the difference between the two? Difficult to pinpoint exactly as they're so different, but what I can say is that with a better exhaust manifold and ITB's the S16 will crack 190-200hp making it clear how much the standard manifolds and management hold it back.

I've always said that the S16 engine itself is very good and very under-rated, but it's held back by the bits attached to it and has always been unfairly overlooked in favour of its lighter older relative or the newer GTi-6.