WiNgNuTz Wrote:My keys, use every one of those keys as well!

declantg Wrote:Now i feel stupid...

declantg Wrote:Now i feel stupid...

declantg Wrote:i just saw numbers and presumed Now i look at it, it doesnt have anything that would make it a calculator!

ginge191 Wrote:

declantg Wrote:i just saw numbers and presumed Now i look at it, it doesnt have anything that would make it a calculator!

the latest calculator from HSBC with no + - = / ... sooooo...............................

HDIkyle Wrote:I have car key, bonnet catch key, bottle opener and a CG cars keyring on mine. I hate things dangling about when driving so house keys are separate and same only a hoop keyring on that.

cully Wrote:work keys feel such a jailer with this lot chinking round the corridors
glad i only need them when im oncall !

there are other keys to but we arn't allowed to carry them unless we sign for them

cully Wrote:yes yes all makes of break glass's though loads of hospitals nothing is standard some are easy some are just PITA

mainly just replace glass/detectors out of hours and reset systems testing is for the day boys

cully Wrote:i am if I'm authorised

but tell me why i shouldnt be??

Neil Wrote:

cully Wrote:i am if I'm authorised

but tell me why i shouldnt be??

Well because I'm assuming that you don't have a test kit to check there working? also if you remove a head on a gent sometimes all the addresses can jump one place meaning nothing is labeled up right.
Unfortunately big organisations seem to not like the idea of getting People in to do these things. Anyone can take a head down and replace it but wether it works and works properly is a different story!

(btw if you have had training on all of this, ignore me lol)

mark_airey Wrote:]

Unless its a conventional system and not an intelligent one....... and then as long as you replace the head properly there won't be any problem, clearly you should test it once installed to make sure that it is working correctly though

cully Wrote:the main hospital use's a static system using severel type of detectors some are base encoded others are head encoded by dip switchs this system soon tells if the heads arnt right
most of the outbuildings are alarmtec panels which are zoned and use older 2kc's

Neil Wrote:

mark_airey Wrote:Unless its a conventional system and not an intelligent one....... and then as long as you replace the head properly there won't be any problem, clearly you should test it once installed to make sure that it is working correctly though

Analogue addressable you mean?
Yeah if it's a conventional then you just have to test but I know that that red gent key is for a MCP that only works on an addressable system. Plus I can't see a hospital running a conventional system lol

Neil Wrote:Oh I see what your saying. Yes that can be done but it's not really a preferred way to go.

Oh and there's no such thing as an intelligent panel. Your thinking of an addressable mate (which could be classed as intelligent but I'm just being picky lol)

cully Wrote:i believe the gent system is in a new build which i have not seen yet
maybe i should ask to see it and quiz them a bit !

yup Apollo and descovery heads got a bloody van full outside of all different types


think mark means the old zoned panels which the detectors are wired on a zone loop with end of line diodes

mark_airey Wrote:Correct Cully, I was

Neil Wrote:Oh I see what your saying. Yes that can be done but it's not really a preferred way to go.

Oh and there's no such thing as an intelligent panel. Your thinking of an addressable mate (which could be classed as intelligent but I'm just being picky lol)

Mate, I spent 4 years installing and servicing fire and security alarms....................intelligent/addressable = the same thing (panel knowing which detector and where opposed to just which zone it is)