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RE: Broken down; place your bets - Poodle - 05-10-2013

(04-10-2013, 11:03 AM)MissTap_GTI6 Wrote:
(04-10-2013, 10:47 AM)Poodle Wrote: GINGIVITIS!!

YOU JUST TOOK THE WORDS FROM MY BRAIN!

I was 'totes going to say this.
I'm glad you did though; I don't fancy a brick to the face from Le Ginge...

Totes couldnt resist haha, posted on the basis that ginge probably cant throw a brick this far. lol


RE: Broken down; place your bets - ginge191 - 05-10-2013

So retimed the engine, cambelt looked fine,

Manually crank and quite strange, gets at the end of a full 360 rotation and locks, won't go any further. It's definitely not just a compression stroke, it's pretty locked.

Going to try and start, nothing to lose


RE: Broken down; place your bets - procta - 05-10-2013

(04-10-2013, 09:33 PM)Piggy Wrote: so...whats happening..?

a 1.5 na derv lump is going in,


RE: Broken down; place your bets - ginge191 - 05-10-2013

Cars had it... Gearbox is wedged (noticed also the bell housing cover on the bottom was missing) so needs a new gearbox / or un'wedging.
Retimed but god knows if it would start

On the hunt for a new motor now Sad


RE: Broken down; place your bets - cully - 05-10-2013

check in the open hole for goodies stuck in the flywheel
wind the engine backwords you might find a bolt drop out the housing


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Niall - 05-10-2013

Its 'wedged'? How the hell does a gear box wedge? Tried jacking it up at the front and turning the wheels with the car in neutral?


RE: Broken down; place your bets - cully - 05-10-2013

put the clutch in and try to manualy turn the engine over


RE: Broken down; place your bets - MissTap_GTI6 - 05-10-2013

(05-10-2013, 07:51 PM)cully Wrote: check in the open hole for goodies stuck in the flywheel
wind the engine backwords you might find a bolt drop out the housing

tried; still locked, it physically won;t turn by hand or by starter; tried taking the starter off incase something were wedged here, nope.

(05-10-2013, 07:51 PM)Niall Wrote: Its 'wedged'? How the hell does a gear box wedge? Tried jacking it up at the front and turning the wheels with the car in neutral?

oui; the wheels turn but no gear/fly ofcourse as it's not engaged to a gear

(05-10-2013, 07:53 PM)cully Wrote: put the clutch in and try to manualy turn the engine over

tried; also tried rolling the car and dumping the clutch in first to try and chuck it free that way, nothing; literally hit a brick wall of force


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Niall - 05-10-2013

(05-10-2013, 08:25 PM)MissTap_GTI6 Wrote:
(05-10-2013, 07:51 PM)cully Wrote: check in the open hole for goodies stuck in the flywheel
wind the engine backwords you might find a bolt drop out the housing

tried; still locked, it physically won;t turn by hand or by starter; tried taking the starter off incase something were wedged here, nope.

(05-10-2013, 07:51 PM)Niall Wrote: Its 'wedged'? How the hell does a gear box wedge? Tried jacking it up at the front and turning the wheels with the car in neutral?

oui; the wheels turn but no gear/fly ofcourse as it's not engaged to a gear

(05-10-2013, 07:53 PM)cully Wrote: put the clutch in and try to manualy turn the engine over

tried; also tried rolling the car and dumping the clutch in first to try and chuck it free that way, nothing; literally hit a brick wall of force
Has it got a quickshift on it? If so, my money is on jammed syncro.


RE: Broken down; place your bets - MissTap_GTI6 - 05-10-2013

nah, it's the 205, standard linkages


RE: Broken down; place your bets - vlj - 05-10-2013

Bloody hell, you guuuuys!


RE: Broken down; place your bets - strictly_perv - 05-10-2013

Sounds like the cambelt slipped and bent a valve.


RE: Broken down; place your bets - cwspellowe - 05-10-2013

(05-10-2013, 01:18 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote:
(04-10-2013, 07:12 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote:
(04-10-2013, 03:23 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Dropped a precup or maybe a valve

Dont worry about fixing it, itll only be something simple, just fir a 2.1TD or better a 2.5TD

Babe, as much as I love you, give it a rest with the old displacement thingy. Please? xx Heart

No Heart

Oh god please do.


Broken down; place your bets - td_dan - 05-10-2013

(05-10-2013, 10:35 PM)strictly_perv Wrote: Sounds like the cambelt slipped and bent a valve.

Exactly this had it on my dt tried forcing it round and snapped the camshaft so whatever you do dont force it lol, slap another head in, time it up and you should be good to go


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Niall - 05-10-2013

(05-10-2013, 10:50 PM)cwspellowe Wrote:
(05-10-2013, 01:18 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote:
(04-10-2013, 07:12 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote:
(04-10-2013, 03:23 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Dropped a precup or maybe a valve

Dont worry about fixing it, itll only be something simple, just fir a 2.1TD or better a 2.5TD

Babe, as much as I love you, give it a rest with the old displacement thingy. Please? xx Heart

No Heart

Oh god please do.

But theres no replacement for displacement! Oh wait, we are not stupid americans! Dum, ill give you a days ban for every 0.1 of a litre more you insist is going to make a massive difference over a standard 2.0HDi that you already have and there is nothing wrong with!


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Poodle - 06-10-2013

(05-10-2013, 08:25 PM)MissTap_GTI6 Wrote:
(05-10-2013, 07:51 PM)Niall Wrote: Its 'wedged'? How the hell does a gear box wedge? Tried jacking it up at the front and turning the wheels with the car in neutral?

oui; the wheels turn but no gear/fly ofcourse as it's not engaged to a gear

If the wheels turn at all the gearbox isn't jammed. If you're still confused have a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPaUJfA1KsY

Must have bent the valve fairly seriously if it jams up the engine. :S


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Piggy - 06-10-2013

sounds like bent/broken valve.

dont try starting it! whip head off and have a gander...loads of people on here seem to have xud heads already to go, IE rebuilt or skimmed already.


RE: Broken down; place your bets - ginge191 - 06-10-2013

Not a bad shout; thanks for the replies, but in fairness I really have not the time to replace the head, just started my post grad course and start "work" next week. I think I'm going to have to get a small, cheap run around for now and break the 205 Doh


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Niall - 06-10-2013

Err man up. Could swap the head in a morning and have it running providing there us no serious piston or bore damage


RE: Broken down; place your bets - ginge191 - 06-10-2013

(06-10-2013, 08:26 AM)Niall Wrote: Err man up. Could swap the head in a morning and have it running providing there us no serious piston or bore damage

Is the only reason i'm not fixing it.

IF anything does go wrong i'm literally stranded. I NEED a car more than ever as mentioed above. I might consider repairing it in time but it is just sitting in a garage at the moment...

Things to consider over the next 7 days; i've got a car im borrowing til then


Re: Broken down; place your bets - vlj - 06-10-2013

I can come over in the week to get the head off if you want? Got a bloody awesome crow bar


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Scott - 06-10-2013

lol Vaughan


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Poodle - 06-10-2013

I'm in a position to help now bud, give us a shout if i can do anything.


RE: Broken down; place your bets - ginge191 - 06-10-2013

Thanks guys, appreciate it, will keep you posted


Re: RE: Broken down; place your bets - vlj - 06-10-2013

(06-10-2013, 10:16 AM)ginge191 Wrote: Thanks guys, appreciate it, will keep you posted

Any time darling!


RE: Broken down; place your bets - Dum-Dum - 06-10-2013

If you pay my fuel I'll come and whip the head off for you or I'll even get the train down tomorrow afternoon if you put me up for the night.



So you say you get almost a full turn at the crank dies it go the full turn back the other way and lock? Im still gonna guess snapped cam or dropped precup.


RE: Broken down; place your bets - ginge191 - 06-10-2013

That was initially; I couldn't get it to turn, I was then in the mindset that something was broken, I'll try turn it over with the starter; had a small turn then locked up.

Now it has no turn either way Doh

I probably caused more of an issue but either way, it will need taking apart at some point.

Cheers Chris, gonna wait til half term I think then have a poke at it Smile
Feel free to join then!