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RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - MissTap_GTI6 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 11:59 AM)cwspellowe Wrote: 110mm on the front?! Lies!
The coillies are stuck on the lowest setting...
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - cwspellowe - 16-07-2013
Right but my GTi6 on 60mm springs and 50 profiles was low, nearly doubling that would be undriveable!
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - MissTap_GTI6 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:01 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Right but my GTi6 on 60mm springs and 50 profiles was low, nearly doubling that would be undriveable!
Ok, well, as low as they can go; it is!
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Matt - 16-07-2013
Ta technic? Iirc they go down to 120mm
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - cwspellowe - 16-07-2013
Thats f*cking nuts. My D2's only go to about 80mm but that's them bottomed out.
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - MissTap_GTI6 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:04 PM)Matt Wrote: Ta technic? Iirc they go down to 120mm
They're off CJ, he thinks they are V-Maxx
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:04 PM)Matt Wrote: Ta technic? Iirc they go down to 120mm
they mighy tell you that but they dont go anywhere near that low
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Matt - 16-07-2013
They do, I've seen them that low
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Curt - 16-07-2013
Looking at the pictures, it looks about as low as mine was before Vaughan fiddled with it. That was around 70mm...
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
go look for my sigma DT project and tell me thats 120mm
its sat on ta's with the 1 ring on 1 thread. then look at kerrys xsi project hers have 2 or3 turns left. again Ta's
they do not do 120mm with the helpers in fact!
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - MissTap_GTI6 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:14 PM)Curt Wrote: Looking at the pictures, it looks about as low as mine was before Vaughan fiddled with it. That was around 70mm...
I've had a look on the V-Maxx website and it say's they go down to 75mm....
I was incorrect with my mm's
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
my APs do 80mm wooo!! its all about the extra 5mm gigity
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Matt - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:15 PM)puglove Wrote: go look for my sigma DT project and tell me thats 120mm
its sat on ta's with the 1 ring on 1 thread. then look at kerrys xsi project hers have 2 or3 turns left. again Ta's
they do not do 120mm with the helpers in fact!
They do. A mate of mine had them on his 306, would all they way down with no helpers. It sat on the sump and Wouk grind the sump, had to use wooden chocks, two scissor jacks and a normal jack to try and get it in the air to wind them back up abit
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
iv had them fitted to 4 of my cars they dont do 120. taking the helper out isnt part of factory spec and not legal.
thats like saying my coilies go 600mm if i cut the springs in half and drop the bodie through the hub.
COTM - Best Phase 2 - MissTap_GTI6 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:17 PM)puglove Wrote: my APs do 80mm wooo!! its all about the extra 5mm gigity
Well... It looks like the competition is over!
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - ginge191 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:15 PM)MissTap_GTI6 Wrote: I've had a look on the V-Maxx website and it say's they go down to 75mm....
I was incorrect with my mm's
you're also incorrect with your coilovers? I don't think they're Vmaxx. They're equivalent to TA technix, with a different name..
I expect they often measure the lowering from the top heigh, to the lowest and the difference between them. Rather than working out the difference from standard height.
Also, is anyone actually entering this?
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
winner wooo ........ but short lived as i will be going back up a little lol
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Piggy - 16-07-2013
whatever....
can we vote now?
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Matt - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 12:31 PM)puglove Wrote: iv had them fitted to 4 of my cars they dont do 120. taking the helper out isnt part of factory spec and not legal.
thats like saying my coilies go 600mm if i cut the springs in half and drop the bodie through the hub.
Just because its not legal, doesn't mean it's not achievable.
Re: RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - vlj - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 01:15 PM)Matt Wrote:(16-07-2013, 12:31 PM)puglove Wrote: iv had them fitted to 4 of my cars they dont do 120. taking the helper out isnt part of factory spec and not legal.
thats like saying my coilies go 600mm if i cut the springs in half and drop the bodie through the hub.
Just because its not legal, doesn't mean it's not achievable.
It is legal, I went through the mot with no helpers
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Curt - 16-07-2013
There's nothing illegal about removing helpers, they are not a requirement. The problem comes when people remove them to go mega low and they unseat when jacked up or unloaded.
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Piggy - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 01:45 PM)Curt Wrote: There's nothing illegal about removing helpers, they are not a requirement. The problem comes when people remove them to go mega low and they unseat when jacked up or unloaded.
QFT
Re: RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - vlj - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 01:45 PM)Curt Wrote: There's nothing illegal about removing helpers, they are not a requirement. The problem comes when people remove them to go mega low and they unseat when jacked up or unloaded.
In other words, for an MOT and wind them nearish to the top, or the point that when jacked they don't unseat and you'll be fine
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
well yeah correct curt. but i dont see why you would remove the helpers for any other reason than to get mega low then legality issue comes into play
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Piggy - 16-07-2013
Back on topic....
can we vote yet?
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - puglove - 16-07-2013
obviously not james the voting thread hasnt been put up yet.
Matt the ponit was we are talking about what the manufacure spec says they will do without modification. you can nake 90% of coilovers do 120mm if you mod them nothing special about TAs being able to do it without helpers.
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Matt - 16-07-2013
What I was saying is that ta will do the 120mm, you said they can't.
Without modification they can do it (removing the helpers isn't a modification it's optional) and that was te point I was making. As I know they can reach those lows and you said that they couldnt
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Piggy - 16-07-2013
oh stop bickering!
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - cwspellowe - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 01:48 PM)Piggy Wrote:(16-07-2013, 01:45 PM)Curt Wrote: There's nothing illegal about removing helpers, they are not a requirement. The problem comes when people remove them to go mega low and they unseat when jacked up or unloaded.
QFT
I think you'll find that they're an MOT fail if springs become unseated when under no load. By design, coilovers springs don't unseat even with droop travel. So yeah, there's a nice grey area for you.
I certainly had no trouble with my last two MOT's...
RE: COTM - Best Phase 2 - Curt - 16-07-2013
Erm, that's what I said isn't it Chris?
I know that it becomes an MOT issue if they unseat, but mine was fine with no helpers as they didn't do it.
(16-07-2013, 01:55 PM)puglove Wrote: well yeah correct curt. but i dont see why you would remove the helpers for any other reason than to get mega low then legality issue comes into play
I removed mine when I fitted the PR3s. The lock ring was fouling on the tyre, so I removed the helper to allow it to be wound up by the length of the helper, giving me the clearance that I needed.