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Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
Right just phoned pug and it seems they can do it cheaper. I'm going for the pokey method do what seals should I buy?
Was going to get the bearings and inner seals. Anything else?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - mark_airey - 10-02-2012
Foxy-jim Wrote:Right just phoned pug and it seems they can do it cheaper. I'm going for the pokey method do what seals should I buy?
Was going to get the bearings and inner seals. Anything else?
That ebay link has everything you need:-
Outer Bearings x 2
Inner Bearings x 2
Crossmember Seals x 2
Outer Seal Cups x 2
Suspension Arm Seals x 2
Crossmember Seals Ext x 2
Torsion Bar Studs x 2
Eccentric Washers x 2
Torsion Bar Torx Bolts x 2
And I doubt you can get all of that from pug cheaper TBH!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
What bits do I essentially need stuff like offset washers can be reused. How easy are the bearings to get out?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - mark_airey - 10-02-2012
Foxy-jim Wrote:What bits do I essentially need stuff like offset washers can be reused. How easy are the bearings to get out?
Sorry, yeah they can but for the extra they will cost is it worth not changing them??
things you really should change :-
Outer Bearings x 2
Inner Bearings x 2
Crossmember Seals x 2
Outer Seal Cups x 2
Suspension Arm Seals x 2
Crossmember Seals Ext x 2
(so all the actually expensive bits and all the seals)
And I have never done it but will make the assumption that they will be a bitch being a fair way down the tube to the inner ones!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
Fair enough. I may just bite the bullet and buy it.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
Done it! Chucking myself in at the deep end now haha. Hopefully I can do it!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - studturbo - 10-02-2012
Good luck your going to need it haha
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - mark_airey - 10-02-2012
Foxy-jim Wrote:Done it! Chucking myself in at the deep end now haha. Hopefully I can do it!
You will have a job unless you have a bearing puller/press I would think mate!!!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
I've got a guide written by welshpug and he said he bashed the old ones out the hammered the new ones in!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - mark_airey - 10-02-2012
Foxy-jim Wrote:I've got a guide written by welshpug and he said he bashed the old ones out the hammered the new ones in!
Crack on then, just saying! :roll:
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Chris - 10-02-2012
No need for a press/puller to fo the beam, just some big scokets, hammer and threaded bar with some washers for the inner ones. The outer ones will come out with a screwdriver.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
Do you know the biggest socket I will need?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Chris - 10-02-2012
Nope, not a clue.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
I have a 26mm as the biggest. I think I read 32mm but not sure if that is for the hub nut of not?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Chris - 10-02-2012
Na lot bidder than that, were talking like 2" across the outside of the socket.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
Oh...is it essential or could i use something of a similar shape?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Chris - 10-02-2012
Anything that fits in and will rest on the outside race of the bearing will be fine.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 10-02-2012
Awesome, Im sure I can find something. Hope this works!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - puglove - 21-02-2012
Jim did you take step by step picys to make a guide for this?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 21-02-2012
I didnt but I followed a guide on club-306! To be fair its pretty easy to do!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - puglove - 21-02-2012
Foxy-jim Wrote:I didnt but I followed a guide on club-306! To be fair its pretty easy to do!
Is there one on there? im off to have a look as i need to do all 3 of my 306's and im not looking forward to it
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 21-02-2012
Ye in the suspension section. Its a sticky. Use the one by welshpug! Where abouts are you based and when you doing it? If im free i could help.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - puglove - 21-02-2012
Im in calne on the other side of chippenham which is on the other side of brizzle, prob looking to make a start with the dt sun/tue
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 21-02-2012
Fair enough. Im back home over the weekend and next week, not in Bath. Which way you going to do it?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - puglove - 21-02-2012
well Dt im not to fussed, but xsi and gti have to be done properly, gti should be ok as its been out before
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 21-02-2012
I'm pretty sure I did mine properly. Pulled all the bars apart then put it back together just lower!
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - puglove - 21-02-2012
have yours been out before though?
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 21-02-2012
3 years ago on the gti the beam was on before.
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - puglove - 21-02-2012
was it greased the 1st it was pulled? pug dont grease them when new hence the tightness
Re: Different ways of lowering a torsion bar..? - Foxy-jim - 21-02-2012
Im guessing so. But it took 3 hours to get the front plates off!