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Matt-Rallyes budget 106 GTi track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
Might aswell make a thread for this.
Bought the other week for £150, collecting it tomorrow and starting the track prep
![[Image: IMG_2135_zps45ecc706.jpg]](http://s143.photobucket.com/user/matt-taylor/media/IMG_2135_zps45ecc706.jpg.html)
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Already bought for it:
Supersprint straight through exhaust
4-1 tubular stainless exhaust manifold
VTS wheels with parada spec 2 tyres
GTi6 283mm brakes
Bilstein suspension all round
Simota carbon enclosed induction kit
Buckets and Harnesses
Looking for:
Half cage
I shall keep this updated with odds and sods i do to it but main priority is too MOT it first even though it will be trailered too events.
Matt
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - ozonehostile - 12-12-2014
I do love a vts, I'll come over for a nosey when I'm free
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - procta - 12-12-2014
my mate had a VTS phase1, he used to drive that as though it was stolen! 1st car that gave me the taste of a Hot hatch!
I will be following this
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
They are fun, this is my 5th one now
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - procta - 12-12-2014
they used to be a common sight years ago, now you hardly see these, the phase 1s have gone!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
Shame Darren Lobb doesnt want to sell me those ph3 Newmans camshafts he has
would go perfectly with my breathing modifications!
Re: RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Seb_Ryan - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 03:20 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Shame Darren Lobb doesnt want to sell me those ph3 Newmans camshafts he has
Dont you mean you're a tight arse and want to pay pennies? :p
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 03:42 PM)Seb_Ryan Wrote:(12-12-2014, 03:20 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Shame Darren Lobb doesnt want to sell me those ph3 Newmans camshafts he has
Dont you mean you're a tight arse and want to pay pennies? :p
I was gonna offer him £250 for them inc postage. paid that for my last set of catcam 743's which are a far superior cam for these J4 engines so i thought that was fair amount but never mind.
Besides that i f*cking despise when people ask for 'offers'. I'm not the buyer AND the seller! Everyone knows a figure they would be happy with if something is for sale so why waste time messing around with offers!?
/rant
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - RetroPug - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 02:05 PM)procta Wrote: they used to be a common sight years ago, now you hardly see these, the phase 1s have gone!
Yeah not many ph.1s...do prefer the look of them but then I'm a ph.1 kinda guy.
Great project...much cheapness. Would love a track slag to muck about with!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 03:56 PM)RetroPug Wrote:(12-12-2014, 02:05 PM)procta Wrote: they used to be a common sight years ago, now you hardly see these, the phase 1s have gone!
Yeah not many ph.1s...do prefer the look of them but then I'm a ph.1 kinda guy.
Great project...much cheapness. Would love a track slag to muck about with!
I'll sell you a 106 gti?
I currently have:
2x 106 GTi's
2x Saxo VTS's
306 rallye
306 S16
306 HDi
And zakks 405 at the back of the man cave
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Piggy - 12-12-2014
Oooo fun!
I'd love a 106 gti as a track car. So fun to drive!!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - darrenjlobb - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 03:51 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote:(12-12-2014, 03:42 PM)Seb_Ryan Wrote:(12-12-2014, 03:20 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Shame Darren Lobb doesnt want to sell me those ph3 Newmans camshafts he has
Dont you mean you're a tight arse and want to pay pennies? :p
I was gonna offer him £250 for them inc postage. paid that for my last set of catcam 743's which are a far superior cam for these J4 engines so i thought that was fair amount but never mind.
Besides that i f*cking despise when people ask for 'offers'. I'm not the buyer AND the seller! Everyone knows a figure they would be happy with if something is for sale so why waste time messing around with offers!?
/rant
Chap, I dont know you, but holy crap what is even with this? I said make me an offer..you said you would offend me, so I said well if your going to offend me dont bother... They arnt specifically "for sale" hence "make me an offer" theres no need for flying off the hook at all..
£250 wouldn't have offended me at all... That's a perfectly acceptable offer, send me a PM if you are actually interested / can sort it out / get them posted etc.
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
Just to clarify it's not a personal attack on you Darren as I don't know you either.
Exactly as I said above I don't like making offers. I said you must know how much you would sell them for and you replied with oh well never mind.
As I've now splashed out on another 106 I wouldn't be able to afford them now untill my Christmas bonus comes in at the end of the month if you still have them at that time my offer will still stand.
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Toms306 - 12-12-2014
Thought that was one of my old mates one for a minute! He had an X reg red VTS on his mums insurance when we were at college but its not the same reg. We did evenings and finished at 8pm so the town was empty when we left college carpark, needless to say I couldn't keep up in the 1.4 306!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
They do shift on alright but you have to constantly wring the neck off them for them to be 'quick'
Hence why Peugeot didn't put that engine in the sportier 306's.
Should be ample for a cheapo track car though with some shinies
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - vincent1 - 12-12-2014
Im running about in a 2002 1.1i saxo at the minute too be honest even these seem nippy pity the stupid ma gearbox is letting it down (bad whine).yours looks like its going to make a great track car i will keep a eye on this thread.
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - darrenjlobb - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 05:32 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Just to clarify it's not a personal attack on you Darren as I don't know you either.
Exactly as I said above I don't like making offers. I said you must know how much you would sell them for and you replied with oh well never mind.
As I've now splashed out on another 106 I wouldn't be able to afford them now untill my Christmas bonus comes in at the end of the month if you still have them at that time my offer will still stand.
Ok well if you want them let me know as need an excuse to stop myself re fitting them!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Toms306 - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 05:53 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: They do shift on alright but you have to constantly wring the neck off them for them to be 'quick'
Hence why Peugeot didn't put that engine in the sportier 306's.
Should be ample for a cheapo track car though with some shinies
He was 2 up as well, still always won traffic light grand prixs lol.... I won on mpg though.
Yeah should be good for track, seem to remember Hammond used one of these on a part tarmac/part loose track (my ignorance not knowing the track name lol) and it looked more fun than the big beemer and Toyota the other 2 had!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - lolsteve - 12-12-2014
Castle combe next year?
Also arnt spec 2s crappy?
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - 7057sam - 12-12-2014
They great at combe definitely be able to keep up with the bigger stuff.
Cams,map,exhaust and induction usually see 151 bhp and stripped.Well with the right driver it would definitely give a gti6 a run for it's money.
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Piggy - 12-12-2014
150bhp and 850kg. (172bhp pr tonne)
Woop a GTi6!!! (137bhp pr tonne!)
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
I've never had a problem dispatching them with the rallye but she seems to go well for standard.
My problem is my old 106 gti was pug performance built jp4 with piper cams and was proven 165bhp+ so every other one I drive unless it's 170ish bhp and running a rallye box they just don't impress me
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Piggy - 12-12-2014
You'll get there buddy.
Just go mental with losing weight, its fun and free!!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 12-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 11:01 PM)Piggy Wrote: 150bhp and 850kg. (172bhp pr tonne)
Woop a GTi6!!! (137bhp pr tonne!)
bhp per ton is the worst possible way to measure a cars performance. Doesn't take torque figures or gear ratios into account or handling! Standard for standard I'm yet to find a 106 / Saxo that will touch a gti6 / rallye.
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Nathan1305 - 12-12-2014
This could be fun
your saxo and my 106 track car 
will be awesome at castle combe
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Piggy - 12-12-2014
Did I say standard for standard?!....er no.
And no, I am quite sure there are worse ways...
Like say by how many "16v" stickers you have or how big your dangly bunch of flowers are!?
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - 7057sam - 13-12-2014
Yeah the ratios of the vts box really suits combe as you never really get flat out(no big straights)
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Poodle - 13-12-2014
(12-12-2014, 11:52 PM)Piggy Wrote: Did I say standard for standard?!....er no.
And no, I am quite sure there are worse ways...
Like say by how many "16v" stickers you have or how big your dangly bunch of flowers are!?
Those look like figures from standard vehicles to me, smart arse. :p Whats the point of comparing them if they're both modified, it's completely backwards lol.
You better take me out in this next time i see you, always wanted a go in one.
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Piggy - 13-12-2014
Since when has a saxo had 150bhp!?
Standard!
RE: Matt-Rallyes budget Saxo VTS track car build. - Matt-Rallye - 13-12-2014
Poodle I'm hoping to do the 'ring in this thing so your welcome to smash it around whatever road / track we happen to be at
Ive been to South Wales this morning and I am currently on my way home with a shiny decat straight through supersprint exhaust. Of Too Shrewsbury this evening to grab a tubular stainless 4 branch manifold too. This thing is gonna sound evil