(16-01-2013, 09:15 PM)burnmw Wrote: [ -> ]Just a couple of points. You say you only really eat "ready-made" meat, pre-packaged stuff that you are technically just reheating? Well, it's already been cooked, so don't worry about it.
Second, your stomach is a bag of acid, it dissolves solid food... FOR FUN! You think it really cares if you put a few germs in it?
Hmm, sure it says contains raw meat on the packet. I don't eat ready meals, more chicken kievs and escalopes. Afaik they're not cooked but might be wrong.
And I know you're kinda right about the stomach.....but on the other hand we all know people get ill from too many germs as well! So keeping the chance of germs entering as low as possible should help....well in my brain anyway!
(16-01-2013, 09:53 PM)kentiiboii Wrote: [ -> ]Your saying how can you stand your grown, but here you are shouting to me putting your point across Tom! To someone you don't know. Yet you can't do that to your mother and make her see how bad you are!?
Moving out isnt seriously the way forward. You need a serious dose of mtfu. Moving out is a cowards way out! Staying at home is the place to face your problems head on!
If you move your just going to clean everything every 5 minutes worry about bills moan you can't afford fuel and you can't get epic mpgs that'll have have to sell your shitty 306 estate cos it breaks down and not fast enough. You'll end up on a 50cc moped!
But if you stay at home you talk to your mum she helps you. Goes with you to get professional help. Which both together including your gran would help you to get out of the mess your in.
Instead of your gran offering what you think is the easiest way out of your problems. Cos lets face it. You still ain't going to find a job and keep a place on your own.
Sorry if it sounds like I'm being really harsh Tom. I possibly am being harsh but sometimes it's needed. Take the easy way out you'll never get anywhere. I've learnt that!
At college I took the easiest way I went into computers instead of mechanics cos computers are easiest for me. Yet here I am not bothering with computers. But working on my car constantly Becuase I enjoy it! .
Don't blow your inheritance. When your older you'll regret it Becuase you could have so much more with it.
Well for a start I'm not shouting at you, I'm sitting at a computer, several miles from you, hitting keys, maybe hitting the shift key as well to try get my point across. But I will probably never meet you, I don't have to put up with any awkwardness between us and I'm not in any way related to you so I'm not overly fussed whether you think I'm a waste of space pussy or not lol.
As for manning up, I'm afraid its not that easy and as niall said you've obviously missed.some of the posts in here, I don't blame you at all, the threads massive now lol, wouldn't expect anyone to read the whole thing!
As for cleaning every 5 minutes, that's not how it works. Once I've deep cleaned everything, if there's no one except me to make mess, then there isn't any mess lol. Wash up once a day, Hoover probably once a week, washing twice a week....its other people dirtying things that I have the problem with. Also using gloves for stuff negates the handwashing too.
I have no problem with people being harsh (and let's be honest, you've really gotta try if you want to offend me
) but it seems like you haven't read or understood the situation to me. See if I was missing a leg, no one would expect me to run a marathon as they could clearly see a problem. If people can't see the problem, I realise its difficult to understand it.
(16-01-2013, 09:59 PM)Niall Wrote: [ -> ]Kent, I dont think youve read a few parts of this thread. Toms family have hardly been supportive towards his issues so possibly living at home really isnt the best idea! And if him moving out and getting his shit sorted on his own means he can lead a normal life in a few years (sorry to make you sound like a spastic tom, cant really think of a better way to word it!) then his inheritance is far from wasted is it? If his nan gave it to him in a few years and he spent it on a new car, i would see that as more of a waste!
Thanks niall, I'm glad someone's been reading it lol, and I do totally agree that its better spent now to get me started (as long as its enough to get me decent footing) than wasted on a car in a year or two.
Also don't worry about making me seem like a spas... Afterall, I am!! Sure I'm not dribbling down my shoulder, but I'm not exactly normal either lol.
(16-01-2013, 10:12 PM)MrsMidnight Wrote: [ -> ]Just a thought... Now you've told your nan and she is understanding enough and willing enough to help you... could you not move in with her for a while? surely that would be better? Guessing she's on her own as I remember you saying a lot that you take her places and help out a lot so there would be less people, she would understand things like germs etc and not be near you when you want to cook or be aware of when you'd like to use the bathroom and maybe even give you a set cupboard for your own food / cups / plates etc? then surely if that worked you could start working on your anxiety and what not which in turn would mean you could start to look for a job properly and then finally move out when all is comfortable and well and you haven't caused a vicious circle of upset for yourself. Just a thought, after all, she clearly cares about you as she offered you inheritance money early! but as said before, you dont want to be wasting it...
I can see you've put a lot of thought into that Emma so thanks! I'm afraid its not that easy though, I wish it was. My nan can't cope with the cottage where she lives (its run down, impossible to heat, miles from civilisation, and she can't use stairs now) so she's desperately trying to get into a retirement flat asap! Plus, this might make me sound like a horrible bastard, but I really don't think she's got long left anyway now. She gained some other problems over the last week due to not being able to move much and being so cold, this morning she was taken to hospital after a hypo glycemic shock (something like that lol) to do with diabetes and with everything else I doubt she'll get over her probs now. After seeing two grandads deteriorate just before the end, I'm sure this what's happening again.
(16-01-2013, 10:12 PM)kentiiboii Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah nial I've read. But he hasn't really Told them to the extent that he as us! They're not supportive Becuase they don't really know.
I know it feels like people are doing stuff purposely to annoy you. But most people don't realise till you tell them! He can't just instantly decide he's moving out Becuase he has problems with him self which start at home.
It's like a alchi. They have the find the reason why they drink and sort that out first. They can't just run away from the problem and keep drinking.
This isn't an instaneous thing, I've wanted to move out for years lol, just not had the oppertunity before.
And it'd be great if it was as easy as fixing a problem then everythings fine but its just not gonna happen. I see what you mean about mum not knowing, which is why I want to talk to her, but it won't change much.
(16-01-2013, 10:16 PM)Jonny b Wrote: [ -> ]Tom I really think you need to talk to someone about your issues! Tbh I don't know if a big change ie moving out is going to help! My mate had a buddy that was kind of assigned to him, with the same kind of issues as he had,maybe that would help you, I used to have a really bad issue with anger to the degree that I put an axe in someone's head, still get angry but have found ways to deal with it before it materializes, a lot of the time you are what you are, it's just how you deal with it that makes life live able, there is never going to be an easy first step!! But I would deal with your confidence issue first as not being able to be around people you don't know seems to be a big one,
Hmm, being around people I do know is just as bad as those I don't!