Toms306 Wrote:Do you get less power And less mpg with Veg BTW? Just something my tutor said last week and I wasn't sure if its right? Obviously the cost easily covers lower mpg, I get that, but less power? :think:
Veg has less energy per litre than diesel, so yes not as much power, but only marginally. Also the car will be less economical than on straight derv. But it still works out cheaper.
I hope you guys are all keeping a logbook in your car detailing fill-ups on veg (dates and how many litres); if the po-po pull you you need proof you've not exceeded the annual maximum withou paying duty...
And it smells like a chippy too :/
So really the only upside to Veg is that its MUCH cheaper then.
so sad that drivers who are on £45k per year feel the need to go on strike ??????
i think i will go bosch asap, veg oil from aldi/netto/asda or even run the car off a waft of an eggy fart if need be !!! i dont care about power, i only plod about to/from work in it but being held to ransom by overpaid drivers , delivering an over-taxed product is taking the p*ss.
i have had an un-believably bad day and just had to get that one out..........goodnight.
whatever, if the po-po pull you it's the first time you've ever put veg in it innit . .
. . . . . .couldn't give less of a shit if i tried . . . .
. . . .until then the only records i'll be keeping is my extensive collection of 12" vinyl . . .
also my Dyno figure down there VVVVVVVVVV was done with plenty of veg in and a little diesel . . . .so fcuk it . .
daddyfixit Wrote:so sad that drivers who are on £45k per year feel the need to go on strike ??????
Argh no dont say that! Their strike isnt to do with money its to do with regulation changes and changes in the safety procedures and training potentially quite dangerous!
It really winds me up that people think that when people go on strike its because they want more money!
Same was when i was at royal fail we went on strike and it was nothing to do with money but everyone assumes it is
If ive sold my car then it wont be an issue as ill be on veg.
for those running veg your supposed to keep records of what you buy/use and customs can demand to see that record and fine you if you dont have it iirc. Receipts in a book is fine for it though.
Already massive queues of panic buyers at petrol stations though
Hmmmmm...............think its time to stock up on veg
Pfft stupid worriers, they are the ones that cause the shortages in the first place. Massive bellends!
To be fair most of the po-po don't even know the rules on running veg. I've been pulled over and they asked me what was in the boot so I replied '60 litres of veg oil' and then they asked me why and told them the car ran off it. Then they said 'Is that legal' ... wtf shouldn't you already know!
mark_airey Wrote:Hmmmmm...............think its time to stock up on veg
Time to stock up on diesel I think......before it hits £2 a litre............just need a large tanker..... :think:
Dum-Dum Wrote:Already massive queues of panic buyers at petrol stations though
How can you panic buy fuel!? It disappears so quickly and fuel tanks are only 50-60 litres usually lol!
hock:
I'll be brimming mine today as usual for a tuesday...will have to do the same again next week! :roll:
^^ or you could have edited you previous post instead of double posing.............
If you want to stock up buy a storage tank and get yourself 5000L ordered in
mark_airey Wrote:^^ or you could have edited you previous post instead of double posing.............
If you want to stock up buy a storage tank and get yourself 5000L ordered in
Couldve done, but my post count isnt very impressive atm.
Where would I put a 5000 litre tank?
Not sure it'd fit in my bedroom!? :think:
It wouldn't really work anyway though, theres no winter additives in the summer stuff.
mark_airey Wrote:^^ or you could have edited you previous post instead of double posing.............
If you want to stock up buy a storage tank and get yourself 5000L ordered in
dont forget the planning permision and the double bunded tank cost's!
Ed Doe Wrote:I hope you guys are all keeping a logbook in your car detailing fill-ups on veg (dates and how many litres); if the po-po pull you you need proof you've not exceeded the annual maximum withou paying duty...
"its at home officer... i don't wish to carry important information in my car"
*Goes home and makes a diary / oh, yeh, this is my first fill up*
ginge191 Wrote:Ed Doe Wrote:I hope you guys are all keeping a logbook in your car detailing fill-ups on veg (dates and how many litres); if the po-po pull you you need proof you've not exceeded the annual maximum withou paying duty...
"its at home officer... i don't wish to carry important information in my car"
*Goes home and makes a diary / oh, yeh, this is my first fill up*
^^ this, or "sorry officer, I only filled it up with veg for the first time this morning so as such don't have any records, however, I do intend to keep them from now on"
mark_airey Wrote:ginge191 Wrote:"its at home officer... i don't wish to carry important information in my car"
*Goes home and makes a diary / oh, yeh, this is my first fill up*
^^ this, or "sorry officer, I only filled it up with veg for the first time this morning so as such don't have any records, however, I do intend to keep them from now on"
and then write down that first fill up... they pull you again *it's my second fill up...*
ginge191 Wrote:and then write down that first fill up... they pull you again *it's my second fill up...*
Exactly, I have been using diesel between the two :liar:
With regards to running on veg, MoT records should be enough as they record the odometer.
2500 litres can be said to give approximately 20000 miles (that's assuming 36mpg average). Unless your odo readings are greater than this, I wouldn't worry about it, they would be unreasonable to levy any charges.
Of course, this is an estimate, however it is fully justifiable..
Well......the two shell stations near me have no regular diesel or unleaded!! :o Tesco also has no diesel (so I've been told, not been there myself), so Im tempted to use VPower for this week. :o :think:
I dot get why people are panic buying when they don't go on strike till next weekend :/
Matt Wrote:I dot get why people are panic buying when they don't go on strike till next weekend :/
If they're not on strike then were the hell is all the fuel!?
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I thought they wernt going on strike till Easter weekend? And therefore everyone started panic buying? So everyone ran out stupidly quick?
Toby Wrote:With regards to running on veg, MoT records should be enough as they record the odometer.
2500 litres can be said to give approximately 20000 miles (that's assuming 36mpg average). Unless your odo readings are greater than this, I wouldn't worry about it, they would be unreasonable to levy any charges.
Of course, this is an estimate, however it is fully justifiable..
Ive made a super excel spread sheet that tracks all my fill ups!
Ill attach it to this post so every one can be as anal as me!!
It also tells me how long it would take to pay off a bosch conversion and what my savings would be!
The yellow is where you input the data and the spread sheet does all the working out
Jesus Ben you massive homo! How anal can you be?! I don't even know how you would work half that out haha
Ben Jay Wrote:Toby Wrote:With regards to running on veg, MoT records should be enough as they record the odometer.
2500 litres can be said to give approximately 20000 miles (that's assuming 36mpg average). Unless your odo readings are greater than this, I wouldn't worry about it, they would be unreasonable to levy any charges.
Of course, this is an estimate, however it is fully justifiable..
Ive made a super excel spread sheet that tracks all my fill ups!
Ill attach it to this post so every one can be as anal as me!!
It also tells me how long it would take to pay off a bosch conversion and what my savings would be!
The yellow is where you input the data and the spread sheet does all the working out
Wow and I thought I was anal about mpg!
Matt Wrote:Jesus Ben you massive homo! How anal can you be?! I don't even know how you would work half that out haha
I was having a slow day at work!
I've added a weekly average now.
So you can see what you spend weekly!
geek much?
but seriosly i find it handy to see where my money goes each month and then how much i need to stick a bosch on the car!
Well the clever panic buyers have sucked my local shell dry.
i need to top up my car, paranoid bastards better not have pinched it all... else ill be filling up with redex!