Ive being doing a little searching and there doesnt seem to be a thread detailing the exact sizes of various torsion bars or what cars they were on etc, in one thread.
So can people fill in the blanks for me and we can keep it in one thread?
306 dturbo - TB 19mm ARB ?mm
306 hdi meridian - TB 19mm ARB ?mm
306 HDi Dturbo - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
GTI6 - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
306 estate - TB 20mm ARB 21mm (ARB not conclusive)
306 estate 2001> - TB 21mm ARB 20mm
306 sedan - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
Standard Xsara - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
Xsara VTS Late Phase 2 - TB 21mm ARB 23mm
Xsara VTS Late Phase 1 & Early 2 - TB 21mm ARB 24mm
ZX Volcane - 20mm TB 22mm ARB
ZX 16v - 21mm TB 24mm ARB
And also the various options for upgraded bars from the likes of Pugsport Pug1off etc
Thanks,
Anton
Gti arb 24mm
306 dturbo 19mm torsion bar
Dturbo tbs are 19 aren't they?
Hdi's are either 19 or 20.
Spoox sell 23 mm torsion bar, bit pricey though!
Also differing sizes for front ARBs
Piggy, il stick to rear setup for now.
Keep adding, but only if you are sure. No point in putting up incorrect info.
Cheers lads
(17-12-2013, 04:54 PM)anto Wrote: [ -> ]Piggy, il stick to rear setup for now.
Keep adding, but only if you are sure. No point in putting up incorrect info.
Cheers lads
Ok. Fair enough
If you upgrade rear you need to balance it though with the front
People try and copy / paste anto's first post and fill in / add missing info, will make it much easier / more usefull for future looking back!
306 dturbo - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
306 hdi Meridian - TB 19mm ARB ?mm
306 HDi Dturbo - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
GTI6 - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
306 estate - TB 20mm ARB ?mm
306 estate 2001> - TB 21mm ARB ?mm
306 sedan - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
Standard Xsara - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
Xsara VTS - TB 21mm ARB ?mm
Cheers Darren, il update the first post when i get all the info.
Good man Niall!
Anymore updates to fill in the gaps?
306 dturbo - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
306 hdi Meridian - TB 19mm ARB ?mm
306 HDi Dturbo - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
GTI6 - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
306 estate - TB 20mm ARB ?mm
306 estate 2001> - TB 21mm ARB ?mm
306 sedan - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
Standard Xsara - TB ?mm ARB ?mm
Xsara VTS - TB 21mm ARB 23mm
After market can be made to w reasonhat ever you want with in
This is more so that those of us on limited budgets can pick up a spare axle off one of the gti/ hdi/ vts cars for reasonable money rather than the custom made.
£220 is way out of my price range when i could probably pick up a hdi estate axle for £50/60.
My 98 LXDT 1.9TD Sedan:
Front ARB: 20mm (measured 20.25mm)
Rear TBs: 19mm (measured 19.50mm)
Beam is not apart so cant measure the ARB
And my micrometer isnt the most accurate
Though its been said that this is currently only after info for the rear beam i am struggling to find information on the front ARB sizes, i have found the phase 1 Xsara VTS is 21mm
Would anyone know if that is the thickest ARB to fit the 306 that came out the factory?
306 estate 2001> - TB 21mm ARB 20mm
What are the passwords and usernames Welshpug?
No point putting up the link without them.
Of course there is, you register and make your own.
(17-12-2013, 03:32 PM)anto Wrote: [ -> ]GTI6 - TB 20mm ARB 24mm
For what it's worth, this isn't just GTi-6 that runs this configuration but also XSi, S16 and Rallye.
(17-12-2013, 03:32 PM)anto Wrote: [ -> ]306 estate - TB 20mm ARB ?mm
Not conclusive as it's the only one I've stripped, but going from my '99 HDi estate they use 21mm rear ARB's.
(17-12-2013, 03:32 PM)anto Wrote: [ -> ]Xsara VTS - TB 21mm ARB 23mm
This isn't entirely correct - Phase 1's and early Phase 2's run 21mm TBs and 24mm ARB going from the several that I've stripped, and I think it's only the later Phase 2's that use a 23mm ARB.
To add to the list:
ZX Volcane - 20mm TB 22mm ARB
ZX 16v - 21mm TB 24mm ARB
yeh, what Anthony said
Just to add, just stripped down a 2002 HDi estate beam
21mm TBs and a 20mm ARB.
Bit gutted about the ARB!
Apart from torsion bar and arb sizes, does anyone know how the rear beam on a ZX (specifically 16v) differs from a 306gti one? I understand the ZX one has zero toe.
minor amount less camber, not much though.
xsara has greatest camber and toe of them all.
Xsara vts ^^^^ not all xsaras!
cheers. Any camber figures would be handy if anyone has any. Guess cars with different cambers must have different design of beam or can it be adjusted?
they're all the same design, non adjustable, its all in the machining of the stub axle hole and the flat surfaces around it.
oh right ok. I emailed IM axles and they said it was the same as the 306gti and Xsara vts beam. Obviously not exactly the same then!
Indeed, with that response I would be particularly wary of anything they send out, mismatching trailing arms is not a clever idea!!
Are you after an axle for a 16v?
(04-07-2014, 02:37 PM)welshpug Wrote: [ -> ]Indeed, with that response I would be particularly wary of anything they send out, mismatching trailing arms is not a clever idea!!
Oh god.