hi ive got some new cyclones so the cylone 2 instead of the older 1? now i understand they have different bolts however the bolts ive got are for the older cyclone 1 just wondering if these will fit? i know the bolts designed for the newer cyclones wont fit the older cyclones due to the shoulder on them but what about the other way around?
thanks in advance
yes the old bolts will fit the newer wheels
but if you have a steel as a spare carry a set of taper bolts as the newer bolts use the taper on the shoulder to secure the spare if fitted to the hub
so the older bolts wont fit a steelie? is that why they changed to the newer design then?
they changed to the newer design probably to save money in not supplying a fifth alloy as a spare
no the older bolts dont have the taper that is needed for the steel rim fitment so they wont work safely
How do you know if you have cyclone 1 or 2's. my car had swallows but a steel spare so I have flat seated wheel bolts. Are they the right ones for my cyclones
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Can u use the supermarket tapered bolts with cyclones then
clones need the flat seated bolts the early type bolt will fit both cone 1 and 2 wheels.
left bolt is the newer bolt right bolt is the older bolt
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Older clone 1 pictures
Notice the no counter bore on bolt hole
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Notice shallower center bore
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Newer clone 2 pictures
Notice the counter bore on bolt hole
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(16-09-2013, 05:58 PM)Aaron _d95 Wrote: [ -> ]How do you know if you have cyclone 1 or 2's. my car had swallows but a steel spare so I have flat seated wheel bolts.
you may find the steel spare has flat inserts on the bolt holes so flat bolts are needed
or you mat find the spare has no inserts on the bolt holes in that case tapered bolts are needed
but the clones will need flat faced bolts
Just checked mine and there a mix.
2x cyclone 1 Italy's (pic 1 bolt hole)
1x cyclone 2 Italy (pic 2 bolt hole)
1x cyclone 2 France (pic2 bolt hole)
Pic 1: taper on top of bolt hole
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Pic:2 taper in bolt hole and wider at the top
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So I need the newer bolts for all the alloys to fit?
(17-09-2013, 11:48 AM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]/facepalm
Take it that's not good. Would it be ok if I got another cyclone 2 Italy then have the 1's on 1 axle then 2's on another as long as there not opposite on the same axle
no, facepalm because this thread is just going round and round with the same questions and answers!!!!
(17-09-2013, 11:52 AM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]no, facepalm because this thread is just going round and round with the same questions and answers!!!!
O right sorry. so I can use them alloys but I need to use the newer bolts to work with the 2's and 1's. in that case that's the end of that. Ha