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OK guys
most will know I'm looking at a new toy on Sunday
if it don't get sold from under my feet!

I'm going to look at a 1998 Bianca 6...yes a petrol GTI6!
122k miles little MOT and 6 months Tax

this post is a what do i look for in a GTi6 engine ?  and a 3 door shell ?

Non tapping engine

Rear end damage if any previous owners names are Chris..

If it makes any noise at all, walk away

/eddoe

(24-04-2013, 10:09 PM)declantg Wrote: [ -> ]Non tapping engine

ok tapping engine
how noticable is it? what causes the tapping engine and what is the cure?

Serious time

All gtis sound like they tap a bit on idle. This is down to noisy injectors. Ive never heard one that doesnt. Difference is as soon as you pick up the revs, the engine noise drowns out the tap so it should disappear. If the tap picks up speed and volume with the revs, its definitely a tapper and regardless of if its been "repaired", should be avoided!

Cambelt history is essential. They should be done about ever 30k on this engine!
knocking top mount on pull away. Gtis have a habit of breaking the cup where the engine mount bolts too. Fairly easy welding required to fix this.
Oil leak. May look like its coming from the cambelt area, usually it comes from the brake servo pump on the side of the head and runs along the back edge of the head.

tapping is the valves being bent. If they are slightly bent they will tap. Think thats hitting the top of the piston every time it comes up? If they are bent a bit more they will be wearing away the guides they sit in. Either way any tapping you are looking at lost power AND a head rebuild which is anywhere between £400 - 700 depending on how much work you get done, how much damage there is and whether you get it done pro or do it yourself. What Niall said about the tapping getting faster and louder the higher the revs. Cambelt replacement is killer on these so unless its been done recently id get it done asap!

Basically. It pays to get a good 6 in the first place instead of getting a crap one and having to fix it!

Standard stuff to look for is shagged beam, beam mounts, make sure the temperature is in a decent place on the test drive. mmmm rallye specific... make sure the window winders work? D:

oh and make sure the racoon filter is in good condition. They are a dealer only part and expensive to get hold of if its knackered

the valve tap is the head of the valve not seating properly every time it returns home. Eventually the head will snap off and destroy the engine!

with regards to temp, they run hot! Its not unusual for it to hit over 100 degrees in traffic situations.

Check that it bwarps.

Then buy it.

Also check for rust in back passenger arch, just incase...

Usual electrics after that id say...

May want to check the RCL Works or not too lol

Is this the one with the black cyclones from facebook? If sooo its a minta

cully cully cully...what happened to the c4 idea?

(25-04-2013, 06:13 AM)sam Wrote: [ -> ]Is this the one with the black cyclones from facebook? If sooo its a minta

probably SSSHHHhhhhhh!

(25-04-2013, 07:34 AM)devils_fuel Wrote: [ -> ]cully cully cully...what happened to the c4 idea?

C4 could still happen when the HDI dies

LMAO the 6 is cheaper insurance than the HDI

What is going on!?

(25-04-2013, 08:12 AM)cully Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-04-2013, 06:13 AM)sam Wrote: [ -> ]Is this the one with the black cyclones from facebook? If sooo its a minta

probably SSSHHHhhhhhh!

(25-04-2013, 07:34 AM)devils_fuel Wrote: [ -> ]cully cully cully...what happened to the c4 idea?

C4 could still happen when the HDI dies

LMAO the 6 is cheaper insurance than the HDI

its cheaper?????????!!!!

Ah so 2 pugs cully then

i think cullys on about 3 or 4 pugs lol

theres 3 on the drive now!
1.1 206 sorned
2ltr hdi 206
306 hdi estate

I still dont see a pic of a bianca 6 on your drive paul???????

Buy it then give it to me to use as a re-shell project for mine

(25-04-2013, 04:11 PM)puglove Wrote: [ -> ]I still dont see a pic of a bianca 6 on your drive paul???????

He's not looking at it till Sunday I thought?

maybe an issue with the insurance ooopps i can only use my no claims once!

may have to start a new policy

multi car with admiral, they will also let you add your state when its insurence runs out so you dont have to cancil your current one

Who are you with? Some companies will mirror your no claims. Brentacre have for me

National farmers union allow you to change car on the policy with no admin fee, essentially change it whenever you want.

Might be worth considering..

yes i will have to see my broker tomorrow
i only banged a quote into a compare site then a work mate said i couldnt use NCD on a second policy
with my NCD £298 with out on a new policy £500 both fullycomp

off to see this today
hope the seller is prepared for me to unload trolley jack to inspect the underside

oh the broker is a star! limited milage mirrored no claims wife on the policy fully comp £250
cant belive you need to put a woman on the policy to reduce the premium!

Hope its a minter bud.

Insurance is dam cheap tho! Needs to be with the fuel bill your going to be taking on!

Haha yeah, get used to 25mpg

well i didn't get the six! tell me i made a wise move!?

story time!

these are the pictures that sold the car to me in the first place

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so after lots of messaging i got the price down from 1300 to 750 less than a month MOT left and 6 month tax
subject to viewing,
so today was the day i went with £1000 in hand to go view on the hope of driving away

first inspection found
4x new kumo 195x45x16 on speedlines nice!!!!
condensation in masked headlight
C/L worked on drivers door only
no radio
service light on
paintwork Highly polished but left to go dull
lifted bonnet water low in rad
ign on fans ran fullspeed from warm ign off fans ran at half speed
topped up water this stopped
engine quiet no tapping through rev range on idle
idle control sticking

Test drive
Clutch slipping
engine pulls strong in all gears
gears smooth
reverse stick release sticking open letting gate to reverse
clonk from back on revers locks
clonk from front on forward take after reverse only
water leaking out poor sealing rad cap no bubbles in water has antifreeze

Jacked up car from centre of rear beam
No CAT
N/S handbrake cable broken
O/S Beam f*cked! i mean really f*cked in out movement and up down
arch liner all eaten away


bodywork very clean
interea very clean

sum up
this car in its life has been a show car highly polished and clean to such an extent some of the body edges have been polished through to the primer

i believe this car in the last two owners has been neglected and as it stands needs a major overhaul
things needed
Cambelt
clutch
rear beam
handbrake cable
probably service


this will be a nice car again if someone is prepared to spend a load of money